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    Might as well get started on these LOL

    One I like (not so much the players but the positions)

    http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm

    1. McCoy- DT
    2. Hardy- DE
    3. Young - OT
    4. Larsen- OC

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    Hardy is nice in the 2nd.
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    In the first 4 picks what I'd like to see right now anyway is......

    1) Suh-DT Nebraska

    2) Graham-DE Michigan

    3) McFadden-CB Auburn

    4) Church- S- Toledo

    Those are 4 players that would or at least could start on day 1 for our defense or at least be in the rotation. Church is a tackling machine who has made plays for Toledo for 4 years and has a ton of experience who at the very least who be great in special teams. Oh and he was rated the best Safety in the MAC a head of of our rookie sensation Delmas. McFadden would hopefully be a nickle or dime back but imo he might be better then what we currently have and he has size and speed to make up for mistakes at 6' 4.4 40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nate7474 View Post
    In the first 4 picks what I'd like to see right now anyway is......

    1) Suh-DT Nebraska

    2) Graham-DE Michigan

    3) McFadden-CB Auburn

    4) Church- S- Toledo

    Those are 4 players that would or at least could start on day 1 for our defense or at least be in the rotation. Church is a tackling machine who has made plays for Toledo for 4 years and has a ton of experience who at the very least who be great in special teams. Oh and he was rated the best Safety in the MAC a head of of our rookie sensation Delmas. McFadden would hopefully be a nickle or dime back but imo he might be better then what we currently have and he has size and speed to make up for mistakes at 6' 4.4 40.
    I said in a couple of threads Suh/Graham would be my wet dream I just don't think Graham will fall that far. But I'd take draft that in heartbeat and I don't know much about Mcfadden or Church but I like the positions taken. The LBers are OK by me (re-sign Foote) 1-2 Dline 3-4 DB's Would have to help the D and in turn a O's best friend is a solid D.
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    i cant figure out if graham reminds me more of a freeney or a woodley. either way, i really like his game alot and would love to have him and that is me being as little of a michigan homer as i can be. he is really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwr View Post
    i cant figure out if graham reminds me more of a freeney or a woodley. either way, i really like his game alot and would love to have him and that is me being as little of a michigan homer as i can be. he is really good.

    I think Graham reminds me more of Woodley always has every time I watched Michigan play the last couple of years. I would love if the Lions would play a 4-3 that would transition to a 3-4 at times to keep offenses on their toes and believe with this draft they'll be able to have the personal to flip flop. With Graham Avril and Peterson all being able to play with their hand on the ground or off, and Levi and Foote being able to man the middle the Lions could really improve a lot. Plus if this draft worked out we would have 2 very good tackling safeties in Delmas and Church that both can flat out hit. the weakness again would be the pass defense but with hopefully added pressure we could minimize that.

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    I'm definitely a big fan of Graham's.

    He is a play maker, and his motor is always running.

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    Even as a state fan, I want Graham in the 2nd. If the Lions got Suh and Graham in the first 2 rounds, wow, that would be one hell of a draft, and go a LONG LONG way towards fixing the defense, then pick up a couple offensive lineman, couple DB and Ill be happy.

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    If Graham is there for the Lions in the 2nd I would sprint, not run, to the podium. I would do it regardless of who our 1st round pick ends up being. Of course I'm also of the belief that Graham will be off the board sometime late in the 1st, possibly around 25.

    But I also think that there will be a 1st round spec that slips to the 2nd that Mayhew and company will be able to target.

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    Some mock drafts have the Lions picking OT Russell Okung and other are picking DT Ndamukong Suh (amongst other like McCoy if Suh isn't available). Personally, I think the need for a DT is more pressing than a OT . . . thought?

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    We need one of the QB's to blow St Louis away. Maybe if we bribe one of the haircuts he can influence St Louis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1957 & Waiting View Post
    We need one of the QB's to blow St Louis away. Maybe if we bribe one of the haircuts he can influence St Louis.
    You mean something like this?
    http://walterfootball.com/mattblog091229.php

    Junior Quarterbacks - Jimmy Clausen

    I bet you never thought in the past month that Notre Dame junior quarterback Jimmy Clausen is one of the most underappreciated quarterback prospects in the history of the NFL Draft. But after reading this blog entry, you just might change your mind.

    First, I am going to tell you why you might not like Clausen, and let's be real here, there is a lot of bias against him. Some criticism is warranted, but a lot isn't.

    Notre Dame is the most hated football program in America, period. They are the Duke of the gridiron. Automatically, you hate Clausen because he went to Notre Dame, just like you hated J.J. Reddick because he went to Duke. If you want to make an analysis as objective and professional as possible, then you need to cut the crap and get over the Notre Dame hate if you have it - and a lot of that is out there. Think about it: if you put Sanchez on Notre Dame and Jimmy Clausen at USC, then Sanchez is the hated prospect and Clausen is the beloved underclassman.

    Maybe you don't like Clausen because of the blond, spiky hair, or the limo appearance he had when he was a senior in high school to declare for Notre Dame. These aren't "low profile" characteristics and automatically, you might have disliked him.

    For whatever reasons you're down on Clausen, please put them in the back seat and have an open mind when reading this blog entry.

    Clausen just amassed one of the most impressive junior seasons among pro-style quarterbacks in the past 10-20 years.

    Let's remember that Clausen had a very bad offensive line this year for Notre Dame. Sure, he had good weapons, but the running game was poor and receivers Michael Floyd and Kyle Rudolph missed significant action (eight games missed total between them).

    When Floyd went out, Clausen stepped up. With a bum turf toe, he didn't play at all in the second half and led the team to a game-winning drive to beat Purdue. The following week, he posted 422 passing yards against Washington. Over the next three games (USC, Boston College, Washinton State), Clausen threw for 774 yards, six touchdowns and zero interceptions.

    Clausen is a huge reason for Golden Tate's big season as well. While Tate is a talented player, he couldn't have done it without Clausen's extremely high level of accuracy.

    Numerous times, Clausen played through pain this season. He led his team in games in crunch time, and was without a doubt the most clutch quarterback in the nation this year.

    Criticizing Clausen because he had talent around him is a very poor argument. It isn't like Clausen was putting up just above average statistics - he dominated opponents. He showed a very high football IQ and rarely forced the ball in coverage. Did he throw some balls up for grabs? Sure, but Peyton Manning does the same thing occasionally to Reggie Wayne. Drew Brees lofts the ball up for Marques Colston in the red zone. Philip Rivers relies on Vincent Jackson. Quarterbacks can't do it all by themselves.

    One statistic that can't be discussed enough is Clausen's 7:1 touchdown-intercpetion ratio, which is absolutely unheard of among junior quarterbacks in pro-style offenses. This is just ridiculous. It doesn't happen and it isn't supposed to happen. Give the man some credit where credit is due.

    The bottom line is Clausen certainly needs to be looked at as one of, if not the most polished junior quarterback prospect in the history of the NFL Draft. I didn't say the BEST junior quarterback prospects because he doesn't have the physical skill, but he is certainly one of the most NFL-ready.

    Analyze the statistics of a select group of quarterbacks in the spreadsheet below; all of these stats were taken from each quarterback's junior season. Aside from Matthew Stafford (I'm including him because I had him No. 1 overall on my big board), these highly thought-of quarterbacks that have gone on to outstanding success in the NFL.

    Clausen simply blows everyone out of the water. His touchdown-interception ratio puts Peyton Manning's 1996 season to shame. His completion percentage is a good five points ahead of Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger. Clausen threw six less interceptions than EVERYONE.

    Clausen's ranks across the board: 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st.

    I just don't understand how someone like Todd McShay can say Clausen is a second-round talent when you consider how his statistics compare to some of the NFL's current greats.

    I'm not a fan of just analyzing statistics, and my evaluation of Clausen really doesn't have very much to do with them. All I am doing is putting his season into perspective.

    The perspective proves that Clausen is worthy of much more respect than I feel like he is getting at the moment. We will probably never see a better junior season ever again. Charlie Weis leaving the college game means that there is one less West Coast offense in the NCAA.

    Over the next 10 years, I fear that nearly all snaps are going to be taken out of shotgun and NFL front offices are going to be throwing darts and evaluating prospects based on physical tools only since the schemes are so easy to execute.

    Clausen isn't executing an easy scheme - he is executing the toughest scheme on the national stage. Every week the camera is on him, and every week he delivered. If Notre Dame's defense was just above average, this team would have won 10 games.

    If you don't like Clausen because he is cocky, then that is fine. I just hope you are consistent and also say Rivers is a bad NFL quarterback because he is cocky - because a slightly confident leader can't win games in the NFL, right?

    Maybe if Philip Rivers went to Notre Dame...
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    I'd kill for a Suh/Graham draft. That'd be the dream scenario. I don't think it'll happen, unless Graham starts to get knocked as a 'tweener' (which he's not), or a few other guys start to get some rub as late-first rounders who aren't even on our radars yet.

    Also, as much as I hate ND, I agree with one thing the author said - Clausen has a sparkling resume for a junior QB. During the Stafford/Sanchez debate, I always rang that particular bell about being cautious of juniors, but always with two caveats - games started and completion percentage. Clausen hits on both of those, since he started as a true freshman. And his completion % and TD/INT are nice numbers, in Weis' pro-style system. Most pro-Stafford peeps (Shagg!) pointed to Georgia's pro-style set as being reason to not worry so much about the junior thing. Another thing that wasn't talked about so much, but has proven to be true, is that Stafford has a lot of leadership skills and is barely fazed by pressure, because he's been starting on huge stages ever since high school. Clausen's similar.

    Not saying he's so talented that he's the next Manning, but I think if he measures out well at the combine, the Rams could easily take him #1 overall, and that's definitely something we should all root for happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4realdude View Post
    Some mock drafts have the Lions picking OT Russell Okung and other are picking DT Ndamukong Suh (amongst other like McCoy if Suh isn't available). Personally, I think the need for a DT is more pressing than a OT . . . thought?
    I'm just beginning to do research on this, but I have a couple of thoughts here.

    Say what you will, but this team still has Backus, which everyone on that staff LOVES for some odd reason.

    They also have Cherilus, who wasn't a Mayhew pick, but I question if they'd pull the plug on him that quickly.

    I don't think you draft an OT that high unless you're convinced he's a franchise LT. Heck, some sites I've seen, Okung isn't even rated the top OT in the draft.

    Also, how does he rank next to the top OTs in previous drafts, and how does he compare to the other OTs in this draft? Is there a huge dropoff?

    So, I think there's a lot of reasons you could argue (rightly or wrongly) that DT is a stronger need on this team.

    I'm not dead set on anyone at this point really, but I think this is the philosophy and questions the Lions F.O. will ask themselves leading up to the draft.

    I'm not necessarily saying they do take a DT, but I'm going to guess they aren't taking an OT #2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportznut View Post
    I'm just beginning to do research on this, but I have a couple of thoughts here.

    Say what you will, but this team still has Backus, which everyone on that staff LOVES for some odd reason.

    They also have Cherilus, who wasn't a Mayhew pick, but I question if they'd pull the plug on him that quickly.

    I don't think you draft an OT that high unless you're convinced he's a franchise LT. Heck, some sites I've seen, Okung isn't even rated the top OT in the draft.

    Also, how does he rank next to the top OTs in previous drafts, and how does he compare to the other OTs in this draft? Is there a huge dropoff?

    So, I think there's a lot of reasons you could argue (rightly or wrongly) that DT is a stronger need on this team.

    I'm not dead set on anyone at this point really, but I think this is the philosophy and questions the Lions F.O. will ask themselves leading up to the draft.

    I'm not necessarily saying they do take a DT, but I'm going to guess they aren't taking an OT #2.
    I think they love him because he is durable, a good worker and consistent....consistently average. But I do believe the coaches realize they could upgrade at LT. Now how do you do that while keeping a player they love in Backus? Because i agree with you, they love him

    Many people have talked about moving Backus inside, but i think that might not be the answer. i think it could be Goz moved inside and not Backus. I could see Cherilus as the brawling/mauler type of OG that Schwartz likes.

    of course this is all guessing if the Lions go OL with the top pick

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