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menear
10-19-2004, 11:22 AM
Should be excellent this season. The big 10 has atleast 4 solid teams. The ACC is always stacked. Good luck should be fun to watch...

Nittany Tar Heel
10-21-2004, 02:06 PM
Should be excellent this season. The big 10 has atleast 4 solid teams. The ACC is always stacked. Good luck should be fun to watch...
The ACC is stacked this year...I think it will be lopsided.

JLove22
10-21-2004, 02:15 PM
yeah, i feel the acc will no doubt win this

Nittany Tar Heel
10-21-2004, 02:16 PM
yeah, i feel the acc will no doubt win this
Carolina goes to a down Indiana team. Who and where does Dook play?

Roy Munson
10-21-2004, 02:18 PM
Which ACC team gets to kick the shit out of PSU this year?

Nittany Tar Heel
10-21-2004, 02:20 PM
Which ACC team gets to kick the shit out of PSU this year?
I don't think they're in it this year.

The ACC's one every one of these, no?

JRoll
10-21-2004, 02:22 PM
I don't think they're in it this year.

The ACC's one every one of these, no?
Actually I think both conferences have 11 now so all teams can participate.

Nittany Tar Heel
10-21-2004, 02:24 PM
Actually I think both conferences have 11 now so all teams can participate.
I just looked at PSUs schedule and there isn't an ACC team on it.





They still might lose.

JRoll
10-21-2004, 02:25 PM
I just looked at PSUs schedule and there isn't an ACC team on it.





They still might lose.
They will find a way to lose in the challenge, LOL.

JLove22
10-21-2004, 02:52 PM
duke has michigan state at cameron, cause it was at msu last year

I Roll Hard
10-21-2004, 05:01 PM
Big 10 will take it this year, and ride the wave to sending 9 teams to the NCAA tournament, and 3 teams to the Final Four with my Hawks fulfilling their prophecy and winning the National Championship.

Nittany Tar Heel
10-21-2004, 07:39 PM
Big 10 will take it this year, and ride the wave to sending 9 teams to the NCAA tournament, and 3 teams to the Final Four with my Hawks fulfilling their prophecy and winning the National Championship.
LOL

jcarm22
10-22-2004, 01:14 AM
Big 10 will take it this year, and ride the wave to sending 9 teams to the NCAA tournament, and 3 teams to the Final Four with my Hawks fulfilling their prophecy and winning the National Championship.

Methinks someone was reading too many of Cards_of_Fury's posts over on the E$P# boards.

I Roll Hard
10-22-2004, 01:28 AM
Methinks someone was reading too many of Cards_of_Fury's posts over on the E$P# boards.
Oh no... I've just been watching too much summer ball of my hawkeyes. Nothing can make a team look better than summer ball against high schoolers and D-3 players.

asheylarry
10-22-2004, 03:20 PM
Neither one of these conference's wants a piece of the Big East.

Nittany Tar Heel
10-23-2004, 10:10 AM
Neither one of these conference's wants a piece of the Big East.
Depth counts, too, y'know. That's where the ACC destroys the Big East.

asheylarry
10-26-2004, 09:59 AM
Depth counts, too, y'know. That's where the ACC destroys the Big East.
Pffft, says you.

manny
10-26-2004, 01:29 PM
Big 10 will take it this year, and ride the wave to sending 9 teams to the NCAA tournament, and 3 teams to the Final Four with my Hawks fulfilling their prophecy and winning the National Championship.
lay off the crack

Nittany Tar Heel
10-26-2004, 04:16 PM
Pffft, says you.
Says me and everyone else

pffffft back

asheylarry
10-26-2004, 06:06 PM
Says me and everyone else

pffffft back
Who is everyone else?

Nittany Tar Heel
10-26-2004, 07:24 PM
Who is everyone else?
Any expert...any unofficial preseason poll.

Besides UConn and Syracuse, you never see another Big East team in the top-10. From the ACC, you see Wake, Carolina, Tech, Dook, Maryland...State is just behind, as is Pitt.

asheylarry
10-26-2004, 07:30 PM
Any expert...any unofficial preseason poll.

Besides UConn and Syracuse, you never see another Big East team in the top-10. From the ACC, you see Wake, Carolina, Tech, Dook, Maryland...State is just behind, as is Pitt.
Pitt will be strong this year and 'Nova's going to the Final Four baby!

Pitpen
10-26-2004, 07:33 PM
Big 10 will take it this year, and ride the wave to sending 9 teams to the NCAA tournament, and 3 teams to the Final Four with my Hawks fulfilling their prophecy and winning the National Championship.
lay off the reefer, and good luck getting the trophy back

Nittany Tar Heel
10-26-2004, 07:35 PM
Pitt will be strong this year and 'Nova's going to the Final Four baby!
LOL.....Nova

Not too much of a homer pick there, eh?

asheylarry
10-27-2004, 09:15 AM
LOL.....Nova

Not too much of a homer pick there, eh?
Hey, I don't live in Philly.

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 11:39 AM
Hey, I don't live in Philly.
Well, you're obviously a Nova fan to say that, which is all I meant.

asheylarry
10-27-2004, 11:44 AM
Well, you're obviously a Nova fan to say that, which is all I meant.
Regardless of that, they are going to the Final Four.

MadNova
10-27-2004, 11:45 AM
'Nova's going to the Final Four baby!
I am a force to be reckoned with.

MadNova
10-27-2004, 11:46 AM
Marquette and Cincy aren't top 10 teams ever?

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 11:47 AM
Marquette and Cincy aren't top 10 teams ever?
Huh?

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 11:48 AM
Regardless of that, they are going to the Final Four.Based on what?



Besides blind optimism?

MadNova
10-27-2004, 11:50 AM
Huh?
you were talking Big East right?

Aren't Marquette and Cincy moving to the Big East?

I could be wrong.

MadNova
10-27-2004, 11:51 AM
Based on what?



Besides blind optimism?
Have you never seen me play?

I'll dominate. Just you watch.

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 11:51 AM
you were talking Big East right?

Aren't Marquette and Cincy moving to the Big East?

I could be wrong.
I was talking about this year's polls.

And Marquette was only there in the 70s and 2 years ago with Dwayne Wade.

JLove22
10-27-2004, 12:05 PM
marquette has travis diener that guy is sicc, possibly better than felton and gilghrest

MadNova
10-27-2004, 12:06 PM
I was talking about this year's polls.

And Marquette was only there in the 70s and 2 years ago with Dwayne Wade.
Don't ever count out a Diener.

I've schooled them all, but then, who HAVEN'T I schooled?

Those Deiners are pretty good.

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 12:06 PM
marquette has travis diener that guy is sicc, possibly better than felton and gilghrest
He didn't play like it last year, if memory serves. Wasn't he supposed to take the baton from Wade but had a down year?

MadNova
10-27-2004, 12:07 PM
marquette has travis diener that guy is sicc, possibly better than felton and gilghrest
Drew was actually better.

I'm amazed at Drake, he always used to suck.

Derek is the least successful of them all, so far...

JLove22
10-27-2004, 12:13 PM
He didn't play like it last year, if memory serves. Wasn't he supposed to take the baton from Wade but had a down year?
i guess 19 pts a game is a down year, and btw they are in conference usa this year

Cappy
10-27-2004, 12:14 PM
duke duke duke all the way, duke

had to fit this in here

MadNova
10-27-2004, 12:15 PM
i guess 19 pts a game is a down year, and btw they are in conference usa this year
Does it count that he's a year older than most seniors?

His uncle was a slick guy, holding his family members back a year so that he had a 9 year run of Deiners for his highschool team....

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 12:25 PM
i guess 19 pts a game is a down year, and btw they are in conference usa this year
For a PG and the focal point of an offense, it might be.

If he wasn't distributing the ball well, was committing a bunch of TOs or not defending, it's not all that great.

PPG aren't everything y'know. Especially for a PG.

JLove22
10-27-2004, 12:43 PM
thought I would throw some numbers out that you might understand

felton: assist-213 to-102, with alot better supporting cast
Diener: assist-187 to- 74

your to and assist argument kinda just went out the window

MadNova
10-27-2004, 01:57 PM
It's so cool to hear people debate the skill of players I have actually in real life played against. Keep it up!

Roy Munson
10-27-2004, 01:58 PM
It's so cool to hear people debate the skill of players I have actually in real life played against. Keep it up!
who have you actually played against?

MadNova
10-27-2004, 02:00 PM
who have you actually played against?
The Clan Deiner.

Born and raised in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin BEYAATCH.

Roy Munson
10-27-2004, 02:13 PM
The Clan Deiner.

Born and raised in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin BEYAATCH.
I think I've only ever played football against one Pro...James Mungro. That dude kicked our ass every year.

MadNova
10-27-2004, 02:16 PM
I think I've only ever played football against one Pro...James Mungro. That dude kicked our ass every year.
Cory Raymer graduated before I got to highschool....but my wife went to school with Aaron Stecker.

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 09:04 PM
thought I would throw some numbers out that you might understand

felton: assist-213 to-102, with alot better supporting cast
Diener: assist-187 to- 74

your to and assist argument kinda just went out the window
First off, is there a reason you need to go out of your way to be a prick? All I said is that I thought I remembered Diener having a down year, though I could be wrong.

Second, my argument might have gone out the window, except for the fact that I'd be the first to admit that Felton had a below expectations year, too.

Finally, blow it out your ass.

Thanks. : )

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 09:05 PM
The Clan Deiner.

Born and raised in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin BEYAATCH.
Where'd the Villanova fetish come from then?

MadNova
10-27-2004, 09:06 PM
Where'd the Villanova fetish come from then?

Villanova?

Who said anything about Villanova?

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 09:10 PM
Villanova?

Who said anything about Villanova?
I just now got your Nova joke.

I'm a little slow, apparently.

JRoll
10-27-2004, 09:11 PM
I just now got your Nova joke.

I'm a little slow, apparently.
We already knew that...but at least you're not as slow as some Dukies are :D

asheylarry
10-27-2004, 09:14 PM
I think I've only ever played football against one Pro...James Mungro. That dude kicked our ass every year.
I played against Marquise Daniels. Well not really, I was picking splinter's out of my ass the whole game. But I was in the vacinity of the court while the game was going on.

asheylarry
10-27-2004, 09:15 PM
Where'd the Villanova fetish come from then?
Final Four baby!

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 09:16 PM
We already knew that...but at least you're not as slow as some Dukies are :D
Hey man -- we gotta stick together here...take it easy!

JLove22
10-27-2004, 09:16 PM
First off, is there a reason you need to go out of your way to be a prick? All I said is that I thought I remembered Diener having a down year, though I could be wrong.

Second, my argument might have gone out the window, except for the fact that I'd be the first to admit that Felton had a below expectations year, too.

Finally, blow it out your ass.

Thanks. : )
its not being a prick, its just proving my point

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 09:16 PM
Final Four baby!
Yeah, 1985 was great.

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 09:18 PM
its not being a prick, its just proving my point
Re-read your post and tell me you weren't being a prick.

What point did you prove? I thought Diener had a relatively down year (though I wasn't sure but judging by their record it appears he did) and you compared his numbers to someone who definitely did have a down year (Felton). So what? Where did I dispute that?

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 09:21 PM
thought I would throw some numbers out that you might understand

your to and assist argument kinda just went out the window







Let's not go down this road again. It's not worth the typing. Just try to cool it.

MadNova
10-27-2004, 09:25 PM
I thought Diener had a relatively down year (though I wasn't sure but judging by their record it appears he did)

The effects of losing Wade and their center..Jackson I think? not sure...

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 09:26 PM
The effects of losing Wade and their center..Jackson I think? not sure...What was their record? I thought I remembered it at .500 or so.

JLove22
10-27-2004, 10:17 PM
thought I would throw some numbers out that you might understand

your to and assist argument kinda just went out the window







Let's not go down this road again. It's not worth the typing. Just try to cool it.
wow dont even try to act like your taking the higher road or anything, because frankly i am very calm, but like you said we should just drop it, sucks though that we cant have a discussion about something without you calling me a name then blowing the whole situation up when honestly im in a perfectly good mood, btw the point of me comparing him to felton was to prove that he didnt have a down year because i thought you could better relate to what I was saying seeing that you are a unc fan and well, "everybody loves raymond" and he is one of the top college pgs

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 10:25 PM
wow dont even try to act like your taking the higher road or anything, because frankly i am very calm, but like you said we should just drop it, sucks though that we cant have a discussion about something without you calling me a name then blowing the whole situation up when honestly im in a perfectly good mood, btw the point of me comparing him to felton was to prove that he didnt have a down year because i thought you could better relate to what I was saying seeing that you are a unc fan and well, "everybody loves raymond" and he is one of the top college pgs
Why wouldn't you be in a "good mood"? I made a completely innocent comment about Travis Diener and you come back with "thought I would throw some numbers out that you might understand"

"your to and assist argument kinda just went out the window"


You really don't think that's silly? You really don't feel like you're trying to talk down to me?

Like I said, you need to cool it. I have zero problems with anyone on these boards but anytime I post something about b-ball, you come back with drivel like what's above. Don't talk down to me, especially when you make it obvious you have no idea what you're talking about (i.e. the Diener/Felton argument that I never brought up), and we'll have no problem. But don't spout off and then act shocked when I take offense to it. It's tiresome at this point.

But like I said, just cool it and we'll move on. I don't like to waste time on this like I'm sure you don't.

JLove22
10-27-2004, 11:07 PM
whatever, I wasnt at all trying to talk down to you and sry im used to argueing in person with my friends so its hard for you to realize that im doing it all in fun and not trying to attack you

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 11:16 PM
whatever, I wasnt at all trying to talk down to you and sry im used to argueing in person with my friends so its hard for you to realize that im doing it all in fun and not trying to attack you
I'm used to doing that with friends, too. I don't know you though. It's different. I have at least vague contact with Phila and JRoll etc....I can rib them and vice versa. Every contact I've had with you is extremely negative thus far, for some reason. That doesn't lend itself to what you're trying to convey. And it also isn't helped when I respond to what you say in a similar fashion and you get offended, which has happened a bunch of times.

Just try to cool it a little. I'm honestly not mad, it just irritates me when you get snippy with me then you get concerned about name-calling or something coming in the other direction. That's all.

JRoll
10-27-2004, 11:20 PM
I'm used to doing that with friends, too. I don't know you though. It's different. I have at least vague contact with Phila and JRoll etc....I can rib them and vice versa. Every contact I've had with you is extremely negative thus far, for some reason. That doesn't lend itself to what you're trying to convey. And it also isn't helped when I respond to what you say in a similar fashion and you get offended, which has happened a bunch of times.

Just try to cool it a little. I'm honestly not mad, it just irritates me when you get snippy with me then you get concerned about name-calling or something coming in the other direction. That's all.
OK, that's enough ladies, hopefully you won't be pms-ing tommorrow :p

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 11:21 PM
OK, that's enough ladies, hopefully you won't be pms-ing tommorrow :p
You're here awful late for wanna be Mod...aren't you JRoll?

pffffffffftt

JRoll
10-27-2004, 11:23 PM
You're here awful late for wanna be Mod...aren't you JRoll?

pffffffffftt
Don't worry, I'm usually not in bed until 3 at the earliest :p

Nittany Tar Heel
10-27-2004, 11:24 PM
Don't worry, I'm usually not in bed until 3 at the earliest :p
You crazy college kids....

JRoll
10-27-2004, 11:25 PM
You crazy college kids....
Crazy doesn't even come close to describing me :D

JLove22
10-28-2004, 12:01 AM
yeah man, no hard feelings, its not that im trying to be negative to you and from now one I hope you will realize that when I post it is nothing against you personally, just me conveying my opinion in a light hearted manner, it is nice to have some of your knowledge to jab back and forth with especially when college basketball starts, and I agree we both do need to keep it cool sometimes and remember its just a game and its the internet and fighting over the internet is gay

JRoll
10-28-2004, 02:09 AM
yeah man, no hard feelings, its not that im trying to be negative to you and from now one I hope you will realize that when I post it is nothing against you personally, just me conveying my opinion in a light hearted manner, it is nice to have some of your knowledge to jab back and forth with especially when college basketball starts, and I agree we both do need to keep it cool sometimes and remember its just a game and its the internet and fighting over the internet is gay
We're definitely going to need a mod, maybe 2, when the season starts.

Treypops
10-28-2004, 02:37 AM
Cory Raymer graduated before I got to highschool....but my wife went to school with Aaron Stecker.
I went to college with Aaron Stecker. I also interviewed him many times.

Did your wife go to college or high school with him?