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BambinoBear
12-14-2005, 05:00 PM
Escape Artest: Pierce wouldn’t mind if Celts traded for troubled Pacer
By Steve Bulpett
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - Updated: 08:14 AM EST

The Celtics have placed the obligatory call to the Pacers to inquire about Ron Artest, but, according to sources, there are no bargains to be had as Indiana tries to move the talented but troubled wing man.
There are no firm reports on what the Celtics may have brought up, but logic would say that Mark Blount and his contract were in the mix.
While teams this week tried to decide whether the entire package that is Ron Artest is right for their situation, Paul Pierce cast a yea ballot.
“Without question, I definitely wouldn’t mind going to war with Ron Artest,” the Celtics captain said yesterday.
Asked if Artest’s emotional issues are offset by his talent, Pierce said, “I think so. I mean, it depends on the coach who can bring that all together. I think the coach has a lot to do with it. People will put him in a class with Dennis Rodman, but what Phil (Jackson) and Michael Jordan were able to do with him — just bring out his talents and leave all that other stuff on the side — it made it work.”
Pierce, however, didn’t bother to walk up the stairs at the Celtics practice facility to express his feelings to Danny Ainge.
“I don’t think they (the Pacers) will trade him to the Eastern Conference,” he said. “It’d be nice though.”
Meanwhile, Pierce’s coach at first tried to avoid the Artest question.
“I’m not touching that one at all,” Doc Rivers said. “That’s a Danny Ainge question. I think you should ask him. I want to read that answer.”
On the matter of players who are equally troubled and talented, Rivers said, “I think every case is individual. I would love to give you the Artest answer, but I really have not given it a lot of thought yet. But I do think from the (Terrell Owens of the world) to the Ron Artests, sometimes they fit and it works, and sometimes it’s a bad gamble.
“Dennis Rodman, in my opinion, was a good gamble for every team he played on because at the end of the day -- even with all his distractions -- when he got on the floor he did his job, and he did it extremely well. And it wasn’t a distraction personally team-wise, it was more of a circus around him. I actually thought he helped us with the Spurs because while everyone was chasing his circus we could go home after the game. I thought he was a good distraction. There’s other guys when they’re attacking their teammates and all that stuff, those are bad distractions.
“With Artest, I don’t know. I don’t know if that’s good or bad. I know he’s a hell of a player. I’ll say that. And it’s rare that you have a guy that every night you can say, ‘You stop him,’ and you don’t have to worry about him. That’s a heck of a value.”
The Pacers are putting Artest on the inactive list as they try to deal him. That means Pierce won’t have him in his way when Indiana visits the Garden tonight.
“I’m a little disappointed at that, man,” Pierce said. “I think we’ve really had some great battles over the years. Unfortunately, I guess the next time we do battle it won’t be with him in an Indiana uniform.
“I think he’s pretty much the best defensive player in the NBA. You’re talking about a guy who can defend pretty much four positions. He’s strong. He’s got good quickness, got great hands. And then the way his offense has been coming around, it’s unfortunate that it’s come down to this situation with him.”

PapiTek06
12-17-2005, 04:07 PM
I'd take him, if for nothing else, the Celtics need to start grabbing some headlines in this town. They can't even win 2 in a row for christ sake. They don't have what it would take to get him though.

MadNova
12-17-2005, 04:10 PM
I'd take him, if for nothing else, the Celtics need to start grabbing some headlines in this town. They can't even win 2 in a row for christ sake. They don't have what it would take to get him though.

Artest, Jones, Croshere, and a draft pick for Pierce and Blount

PapiTek06
12-17-2005, 07:46 PM
Are you kidding me? Never would the Pacers do that. Ever. Not unless we also threw in a serious amount of cash, which is not a good idea. But straight up, I'd do it.

Was this a rumored deal or was that a suggestion on your part, Nova?

Enyalois
12-17-2005, 09:10 PM
Are you kidding me? Never would the Pacers do that. Ever. Not unless we also threw in a serious amount of cash, which is not a good idea. But straight up, I'd do it.

Was this a rumored deal or was that a suggestion on your part, Nova?
He was only joking. And I think the Celt's would be the team that wouldn't want to pull the trigger on that one. As it stands now, Artest said he does indeed want to play for the Pacers and hopes they can work something out there. The Pacers have said they are willing to keep him inactive all year, so who's to say where it goes.

PapiTek06
12-17-2005, 09:51 PM
Celts would give Blount away for a bag of good weed. Pierce is tradeable and I'd like to seem them do that as well. Their halfway commitment to the youth movement isn't doing them any good.

Enyalois
12-17-2005, 10:26 PM
Celts would give Blount away for a bag of good weed. Pierce is tradeable and I'd like to seem them do that as well. Their halfway commitment to the youth movement isn't doing them any good.
I'm sure the Pacers wouldn't mind unloading Croshere's horrible contract as well, though he is producing a bit better this year. Even though there are many teams interesetd in Artest, I doubt he'd be demanding much, since he initiated that idea that he wants out, though he has since said otherwise. Blount may have been in the doghouse just a few weeks ago, but he is logging a good amount of minutes at the 4/5 as of late, too.

Again, he was just joshing, mainly with the title being "Pierce wouldn't mind if Celts traded for Artest" with Pierce himself being involved in the deal.

PapiTek06
12-17-2005, 11:51 PM
Right, no I got that it was a joke, just saying I would also like Pierce to get out of here. And Blount. Especially Blount.

Enyalois
12-18-2005, 12:00 AM
Right, no I got that it was a joke, just saying I would also like Pierce to get out of here. And Blount. Especially Blount.
No love for Pierce in Beantown? Why's that?

PapiTek06
12-18-2005, 04:25 PM
He's not a team guy, not a leader. Much like we got rid of Joe Thornton, it's time to deal Pierce as well.