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Zero
12-12-2005, 07:56 AM
Blues are set to move Lalime
By Jeremy Rutherford (jrutherford@<hidden>)
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
Sunday, Dec. 11 2005

The Blues' 5-4 overtime loss to the New York Rangers Saturday night may have
been goaltender Patrick Lalime's last game in a St. Louis uniform.

The team is expected to make a move regarding Lalime as soon as today.

The Blues have a few options, including trading the seven-year veteran or
placing him on waivers. General manager Larry Pleau would not confirm Sunday
that one of those transactions was about to take place.

"I don't talk about those situations," Pleau said. "That's something that I
never discuss. If we're going to make a trade, we've never come out and say
we're going to do this."

With Lalime sitting out for six games last month to refocus, his performance
already was being called into question. It appears that the loss Saturday,
after the Blues rallied twice to tie the score in the third period, was the
clincher.

Lalime dropped to 3-11-4 this season, allowing four goals Saturday that coach
Mike Kitchen considered soft.

One of the goals deflected in off the skate of defenseman Bryce Salvador, and
the game-winner by Martin Rucinsky bounced off the glass behind Lalime and then
off his backside and into the net. In his postgame news conference, Kitchen
said Lalime needed to have more puck awareness. He added: "All you want is to
be square to the puck and efficient in your movement. ... That's basically all
you're looking for in a goalie."

The most telling comment from Kitchen may have been his briefest statement.
"It's up to us to make things better," he said.

Reached Sunday, Kitchen would not confirm that the Blues were close to making a
move with Lalime. In fact, he softened his stance somewhat on Lalime's slump.

"We're in a team game here," Kitchen said. "If someone's struggling, they give
him support. Just like any other player, you give them support."

But the Blues appear to be headed in another direction.

Though Lalime has played with an inexperienced and often injured defense, the
team believes he has had plenty of chances.

Lalime was 2-9 when the Blues benched him on Nov. 12 and called up Curtis
Sanford from Peoria. Sanford played six games before Lalime returned to the net
Dec. 1 against Columbus and picked up his third victory of the season, in a 4-1
win over the Blue Jackets. But in his second game back, the Blues lost 6-3 to
the New York Islanders and Lalime was pulled for the fourth time this season.

In his past three games, Lalime allowed 13 goals on 73 shots. His .866
save-percentage is the lowest of any NHL goalie with 15 or more games played.

Adding to the frustration, Kitchen and Lalime appeared to be on different pages
after the loss Saturday.

"I look at those goals ... I would probably have done the same thing on those
three again," Lalime said. "I don't know. It's just bad breaks."

Lalime was unavailable to comment Sunday.

Trading Lalime might not seem probable, considering his recent failures and his
$2.4 million salary. Under the new collective-bargaining agreement, the Blues
are not allowed to pick up a portion of the salary to move him. But teams
around the league are squirming for goaltending.

The more likely move would be placing Lalime on waivers, giving teams 24 hours
to claim him. A team that claimed him would be responsible for the remainder of
his salary.

If a player clears waivers, normally he is sent to the club's minor league
affiliate. But it's doubtful the Blues would send Lalime to Peoria because, if
they recalled him, he would have to clear re-entry waivers. If he were claimed
on re-entry waivers, the club would be responsible for 50 percent of his
remaining salary.

A situation could arise in which Lalime clears waivers and then sits idle, like
Columbus Blue Jackets forward Todd Marchant did last month. The Blue Jackets
did not send Marchant to their affiliate in Syracuse, assuring that they would
not pay any of his salary upon re-entry. Anaheim eventually picked up Marchant
when he was sent back through waivers.

At that point, though, the bigger concern to the Blues would be the goaltenders
they have in uniform.

Unless the Blues make a trade, Curtis Sanford will be the starter. He's 2-4
with a 3.35 goals-against average this season. It's unclear who will back up
Sanford because both Jason Bacashihua and Reinhard Divis are struggling in
Peoria.

Bacashihua was replaced by Divis over the weekend, and in two games, Divis
allowed seven goals on 19 shots. Divis is 2-4-1 with an .887 save percentage at
Peoria. In five games with the Blues this season, he was 0-2 with an .845 save
percentage.

Bacashihua, who has never played in the NHL, is 9-3 at Peoria this season.

FHgrad99
12-12-2005, 02:03 PM
The Blues put him on waivers.

Zero
12-12-2005, 02:10 PM
Lalime has been one big fucking disappointment. When he gave up the game winning goal on Saturday night by having the puck bounce off his ass into the net I about "pitched a fit." Good riddance, sucko.

KopiOveyOlieKovy
12-12-2005, 02:29 PM
Lalime has been one big fucking disappointment. When he gave up the game winning goal on Saturday night by having the puck bounce off his ass into the net I about "pitched a fit." Good riddance, sucko.

That type of goal has happened to every goalie. Happened to Hasek quite often during his career. Whenever a puck goes behind the net, its EXTREMELY hard to...keep position, find the puck and still have your reflexes ready to make a save if the puck finds its way to the front. There's a reason Gretzky's office was behind the net, because those situations are the absolute worst on goalies.

LeftClickHere
12-12-2005, 02:37 PM
In a perfect world Hasek would get hurt and Ottawa would pick up Lalime just so we can light him up again in the playoffs...............Actually forget about that. We'll light up Hasek come playoff time! :D

Zero
12-12-2005, 04:11 PM
That type of goal has happened to every goalie. Happened to Hasek quite often during his career. Whenever a puck goes behind the net, its EXTREMELY hard to...keep position, find the puck and still have your reflexes ready to make a save if the puck finds its way to the front. There's a reason Gretzky's office was behind the net, because those situations are the absolute worst on goalies.

Except that Bernie Federko, the Blues color commentator, said he had never seen anything like that in his entire life. The puck hit the back glass, bounced forward, hit a Rangers player, flipped over Lalime's back, hit him in the ass and went into the net for the game winner in OT. I've only been a hockey fan for 13 years but I'be never seen that before.

Zero
12-12-2005, 04:12 PM
In a perfect world Hasek would get hurt and Ottawa would pick up Lalime just so we can light him up again in the playoffs...............Actually forget about that. We'll light up Hasek come playoff time! :D

Who is your team?

Richter35
12-12-2005, 04:47 PM
Except that Bernie Federko, the Blues color commentator, said he had never seen anything like that in his entire life. The puck hit the back glass, bounced forward, hit a Rangers player, flipped over Lalime's back, hit him in the ass and went into the net for the game winner in OT. I've only been a hockey fan for 13 years but I'be never seen that before.

actually it hit a blues player hit the glass behind the net then it hit lalimes back and into the net... it never hit a rangers player

Zero
12-12-2005, 04:49 PM
actually it hit a blues player hit the glass behind the net then it hit lalimes back and into the net... it never hit a rangers player

I was watching and that's what it looked like to me.

Richter35
12-12-2005, 04:51 PM
I was watching and that's what it looked like to me.

i was too... it couldnt have hit a rangers player because there were only 3 of them on the ice and they were all in front of lalime!

KopiOveyOlieKovy
12-12-2005, 04:56 PM
Except that Bernie Federko, the Blues color commentator, said he had never seen anything like that in his entire life. The puck hit the back glass, bounced forward, hit a Rangers player, flipped over Lalime's back, hit him in the ass and went into the net for the game winner in OT. I've only been a hockey fan for 13 years but I'be never seen that before.

Here's one from earlier this year in the ECHL...

http://www.phxroadrunners.com/news/?id=2469

Cory Pecker netted the equalizer at 6:08 of the period when his shot ricocheted off the glass behind Hewitt and bounced back off Hewitt’s mask and into the net to tie the score at 2-2.

And another...a month ago in the Leafs game...

http://www.canada.com/sports/hockey/story.html?id=9239346f-6a04-4ec5-a8a5-16e33e26dcfe

Allison tied the game with only 2:28 left in regulation when he tipped a clearing attempt by Canadiens defenceman Mathieu Dandenault off the end glass, over the Canadiens net, off Theodore's back, off the post and in.

Zero
12-12-2005, 05:00 PM
Here's one from earlier this year in the ECHL...

http://www.phxroadrunners.com/news/?id=2469



And another...a month ago in the Leafs game...

http://www.canada.com/sports/hockey/story.html?id=9239346f-6a04-4ec5-a8a5-16e33e26dcfe

Bernie Federko must've missed those.

KopiOveyOlieKovy
12-12-2005, 05:05 PM
Bernie Federko must've missed those.
Yup. Like I said, they have happened to every goalie. However, when players arent playing well, the situation gets magnified. Funny how noone said anything about the Theodore goal earlier this year eh?? Fluke goals happen. This one, Salo vs Ukraine, Osgood vs a bunch of players scoring from the red line.

Zero
12-12-2005, 05:06 PM
Yup. Like I said, they have happened to every goalie. However, when players arent playing well, the situation gets magnified. Funny how noone said anything about the Theodore goal earlier this year eh?? Fluke goals happen. This one, Salo vs Ukraine, Osgood vs a bunch of players scoring from the red line.

Lalime let in so many soft goals it wasn't even funny. I hope to see Sanford and Bacashihua for the rest of the season. Also, Divis sucks.

KopiOveyOlieKovy
12-12-2005, 05:16 PM
BCash has the tools to be decent, he just needs to keep his attitude and work ethic in check. I still don't think he will ever amount to the starter he was drafted to be.

Sanford has been a nice suprise but I don't like his size for the style he plays. He seems to play a standup style when someone of his size(listed 5'10...more like 5'8...) should play a positional butterfly.

I like Divis the better RIGHT NOW of the 3.

I've seen a lot of Blues players in my time, since I watched alot of Worcester games and the best Worcester goalie i've seen was Brent Johnson. Too bad they let him go, he could be the starter now.

Zero
12-12-2005, 05:43 PM
I've seen a lot of Blues players in my time, since I watched alot of Worcester games and the best Worcester goalie i've seen was Brent Johnson. Too bad they let him go, he could be the starter now.

Maybe we can get him back. The Blues are known for giving up on good players.

Zero
12-15-2005, 06:38 AM
Lalime cleared waivers (there's a surprise) and was sent to the Minors.

KopiOveyOlieKovy
12-15-2005, 09:58 AM
Lalime cleared waivers (there's a surprise) and was sent to the Minors.

Everyone is clearing waivers. You can't pick players up off waivers without thinking anymore with the cap. There's no way a guy like Huselius would have cleared in the "old" NHL, but he did this year. They then worked out a trade where Calgary could also shed salary in the deal.