BOTPP2 Round 1: Wayne14b vs. BHGangFan Part2

[Domino427]

Waybe14b (http://sports-boards.net/forums/member.php?u=682)

http://sports-boards.net/forums/image.php?u=682&dateline=1119984840 Total Posts: 571

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BHGangFan Part2 (http://sports-boards.net/forums/member.php?u=952)

http://sports-boards.net/forums/image.php?u=952&dateline=1114541868 Total Posts: 839

[BHGangFan Part2]

I'll take you down wayne, my friend. I'll take you down to Chinatown.

[Jiddy78]

This one's tough...Research to do....

[Domino427]

Another close one with a few questions raised about non pre-registered voters: Ima, BambinoBear, and godess.

Guess we'll see what happens. Again, lets get some more votes and break the tie!

[Y.O.M.]

Another close one with a few questions raised about non pre-registered voters: Ima, BambinoBear, and godess.

Guess we'll see what happens. Again, lets get some more votes and break the tie!
Bambinobear should count. He's a level-headed good guy, and he's not voting with any bias whatsoever.

goddess and ima should have their votes thrown out.

[Domino427]

Bambinobear should count. He's a level-headed good guy, and he's not voting with any bias whatsoever.

goddess and ima should have their votes thrown out.

I was thinking yes for Bambino and goddess...I've never seen her cause any problems, and she does talk a lot of baseball.

Ima is fiesty (as he'll admit)...and I cant say I've seen him talk a lot of baseball. That said, he has been around here for a while.

Just curious...what your case is against these 2?

[Ima]

Bambinobear should count. He's a level-headed good guy, and he's not voting with any bias whatsoever.

goddess and ima should have their votes thrown out.


Narf....are you saying ima not levelheaded?

[Y.O.M.]

I was thinking yes for Bambino and goddess...I've never seen her cause any problems, and she does talk a lot of baseball.

Ima is fiesty (as he'll admit)...and I cant say I've seen him talk a lot of baseball. That said, he has been around here for a while.

Just curious...what your case is against these 2?
Ima has a tendancy to be spiteful. I don't think he can be trusted to vote without bias.

I really have no case against goddess in regard to her knowledge of the Phillies and our posters. allow her if you wish. ima should be disallowed.

[Y.O.M.]

Narf....are you saying ima not levelheaded?
you're spiteful. that's all good and well, just not in a situation like this. this tourney need not be decided by a biased vote of a non-phillies fan.

but we can hump later, if you'd like.

[Ima]

I was thinking yes for Bambino and goddess...I've never seen her cause any problems, and she does talk a lot of baseball.

Ima is fiesty (as he'll admit)...and I cant say I've seen him talk a lot of baseball. That said, he has been around here for a while.

Just curious...what your case is against these 2?

I used to be on the Philly Bandwagon last year...

I was a HUGE supporter...

YOM thinks ima narf

[Y.O.M.]

I used to be on the Philly Bandwagon last year...

I was a HUGE supporter...

YOM thinks ima narf
What in Favre's name is a narf?! You've yet to give me an answer here.

[Domino427]

I used to be on the Philly Bandwagon last year...

I was a HUGE supporter...

YOM thinks ima narf

Nothing personal, Ima. But I sort of agree with YOM.

With quite a few close matchups, I'd rather see them decided by people who are more interactive with the Phils board.

[Domino427]

What in Favre's name is a narf?! You've yet to give me an answer here.
I believe it is from "Pinky and the Brain"

[Ima]

you're spiteful. that's all good and well, just not in a situation like this. this tourney need not be decided by a biased vote of a non-phillies fan.

but we can hump later, if you'd like.

Ima spiteful?

Im crushed that you would think that..

As close as we are and all....

Are you angry cuz i voted against you?

ima sorry

[Y.O.M.]

Ima spiteful?

Im crushed that you would think that..

As close as we are and all....

Are you angry cuz i voted against you?

ima sorry
Not angry at all. I have no reason to be, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Also, my opinion that you are spiteful in nature has nothing to do with me...i've seen you be spiteful toward others. You allow personal problems to cloud your ability to be objective. We don't need that here.

[Ima]

Nothing personal, Ima. But I sort of agree with YOM.

With quite a few close matchups, I'd rather see them decided by people who are more interactive with the Phils board.

Im sorry for voting....

You should throw out my vote...i agree...no hard feelings

[Ima]

What in Favre's name is a narf?! You've yet to give me an answer here.

I dont know what a narf is.

YOU left me Neg Rep and called me a NARF. YOU tell me what it is.

[Domino427]

Im sorry for voting....

You should throw out my vote...i agree...no hard feelings

Its cool, man. Don't worry about it.

[Ima]

Not angry at all. I have no reason to be, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Also, my opinion that you are spiteful in nature has nothing to do with me...i've seen you be spiteful toward others. You allow personal problems to cloud your ability to be objective. We don't need that here.

Thanks Dr Phil..

I have NOTHING personal with anyone...

[LWolf]

Thanks Dr Phil..

I have NOTHING personal with anyone...

Let me just throw this out there before the voting is over so I dont look like I'm lobbying one way or the other in order to influence the outcome of my contest:

How can one or two people be looked upon to determine who the non-regular posters are that should be counted v. those who shouldnt? Everyone should either be counted or they shouldnt IMO

[Domino427]

Let me just throw this out there before the voting is over so I dont look like I'm lobbying one way or the other in order to influence the outcome of my contest:

How can one or two people be looked upon to determine who the non-regular posters are that should be counted v. those who shouldnt? Everyone should either be counted or they shouldnt IMO

Basically, we're just looking for the people who talk a decent amount here w/the Phils posters. Posters like Pitpen, manny, preds, etc. I had wanted to get a list together ahead of time, but it didnt work out so well.

I understand what you're saying entirely. Unfortunately, there is going to be flaws in this tourney, especially since it was put together fairly quickly. I am guarenteeing a much better process next year.

[Y.O.M.]

Let me just throw this out there before the voting is over so I dont look like I'm lobbying one way or the other in order to influence the outcome of my contest:

How can one or two people be looked upon to determine who the non-regular posters are that should be counted v. those who shouldnt? Everyone should either be counted or they shouldnt IMO
That's it, you just lost your right to vote.


Anyone else wanna speak out?

[LWolf]

That's it, you just lost your right to vote.


Anyone else wanna speak out?


fascist!!

[Domino427]

As the process goes on, I'm starting to wonder if we should just eliminate all outside posters for this year.

It's just too complicated right now, as there are more and more voters showing up.

Again, I'll leave it open for a brief discussion before a decision is made.

[LWolf]

As the process goes on, I'm starting to wonder if we should just eliminate all outside posters for this year.

It's just too complicated right now, as there are more and more voters showing up.

Again, I'll leave it open for a brief discussion before a decision is made.

If it were up to me, I would allow all votes to count. In the end, how can we honestly gauge who may come over here to read some posts every now and then even if they dont post v. those who never come over here at all. Trying to keep someone from voting is entirely too subjective. The only objective way to do it is to allow this to be open to all and living with the results.

In reality, there are only a few non-regulars who have even voted. And, imo, most, if not all of those, are regular s-b posters who i've seen here before at least a few times.

[Y.O.M.]

As the process goes on, I'm starting to wonder if we should just eliminate all outside posters for this year.

It's just too complicated right now, as there are more and more voters showing up.

Again, I'll leave it open for a brief discussion before a decision is made.
Fuck it Jay. Open it up for all. Honestly. The biased, ill-educated voters will be overshadowed by voters that have objectivity.


Pretend I never said anything about this matter except above. It really is too difficult, and slightly mean, to say who can vote and who cannot.

[Domino427]

Guess you guys are right...I shoulda known this was gonna be a problem.

Hopefully there won't be any controversies.

Next year, this system will be set up much, much better.

[kluttz13]

Guess you guys are right...I shoulda known this was gonna be a problem.

Hopefully there won't be any controversies.

Next year, this system will be set up much, much better.

Wait, is this not a public poll?

[Y.O.M.]

Wait, is this not a public poll?
It is now. Vote away, oh foe of ours.

[Hey Look Its Chase Utley!]

Maybe if there is a tie, you go by how many voters are Phillies regulars as a tie breaker?

[kluttz13]

It is now. Vote away, oh foe of ours.

You got my vote. Then I threw up and washed it down with some Pepe Lopez.

[Y.O.M.]

Maybe if there is a tie, you go by how many voters are Phillies regulars as a tie breaker?
Finally. That's a good damn idea. I like it. Book it.

[kluttz13]

Besides, I'm only voting in matchups of people that I've interacted with.

[Y.O.M.]

You got my vote. Then I threw up and washed it down with some Pepe Lopez.
Ick. Tequila is for weenies. But I'm happy that I made you vomit.

[Y.O.M.]

Besides, I'm only voting in matchups of people that I've had intercourse with.


Well that's awfuly special of you.

[kluttz13]

Ick. Tequila is for weenies. But I'm happy that I made you vomit.

Terrible tequila too. For you, I spring for nothing but the best.

[kluttz13]

Well that's awfuly special of you.
That's fucked up.

[Y.O.M.]

That's fucked up.
That's the only way I know how to roll. Besides, you said it, not me.

[kluttz13]

That's the only way I know how to roll. Besides, you said it, not me.

So, by your reasoning, we've had intercourse?

You're so gay.

[Domino427]

Finally. That's a good damn idea. I like it. Book it.

Haha...thanks for taking control for me, YOM.

But seriously, that is a damn good idea...and so simple too. How come we couldnt come up with that before?!

[Y.O.M.]

So, by your reasoning, we've had intercourse?

You're so gay.
Maybe you did. I was sleeping the whole time.

[Y.O.M.]

Haha...thanks for taking control for me, YOM.

But seriously, that is a damn good idea...and so simple too. How come we couldnt come up with that before?!
Our ability to think outside the box is obviously marred.

[SU Nittany Tide]

I was thinking yes for Bambino and goddess...I've never seen her cause any problems, and she does talk a lot of baseball.

Ima is fiesty (as he'll admit)...and I cant say I've seen him talk a lot of baseball. That said, he has been around here for a while.

Just curious...what your case is against these 2?
That damn Ima cost me a shutout.

[moses]

I disagree that everyone should vote.

We started the thing as a battle for phillies fans.

We know that most non-phillies fans know jack-shit about a lot of the phillies fans and it is simply unfair to open it to every voter. Certainly, people that go over to many other boards will have a much higher chance of winning although they may be a huge prick of a phillies fan.

Of course, there are people that know a lot about the phillies posters that are not having their vote counted. But look what happened last year -- people going to other boards and begging for votes from other teams' fans. That's pretty pathetic and I'd like to see that avoided this year.

At the same time, it sucks that certain people will not have their voice heard, but there was a time where we could nominate people to vote and those people were not nominated.

My opinion:

Restrict it to only phillies fans,

OR

Just accept the people who were pre-approved.


*Sidenote: I'm sorry if I'm taking some of your posts out of context as I didn't read everything in the thread.

*Additional sidenote: I don't want to get too up-in-arms about this. But last year got a bit ridiculous and HLICU got dicked over because we let everyone vote; it was totally unfair.

*Third sidenote: JayGlo is running the thing. It's up to him. I just don't want to see a repeat of last year.

[Domino427]

I disagree that everyone should vote.

We started the thing as a battle for phillies fans.

We know that most non-phillies fans know jack-shit about a lot of the phillies fans and it is simply unfair to open it to every voter. Certainly, people that go over to many other boards will have a much higher chance of winning although they may be a huge prick of a phillies fan.

Of course, there are people that know a lot about the phillies posters that are not having their vote counted. But look what happened last year -- people going to other boards and begging for votes from other teams' fans. That's pretty pathetic and I'd like to see that avoided this year.

At the same time, it sucks that certain people will not have their voice heard, but there was a time where we could nominate people to vote and those people were not nominated.

My opinion:

Restrict it to only phillies fans,

OR

Just accept the people who were pre-approved.


*Sidenote: I'm sorry if I'm taking some of your posts out of context as I didn't read everything in the thread.

*Additional sidenote: I don't want to get too up-in-arms about this. But last year got a bit ridiculous and HLICU got dicked over because we let everyone vote; it was totally unfair.

*Third sidenote: JayGlo is running the thing. It's up to him. I just don't want to see a repeat of last year.

They're my thoughts exactly, mo'. Unfortunately, my anxiousness to get this thing out and going at a time where it would not conflict with Newt's GM game, exams for many of us, and the Christmas holidays, as well as a potential S-B wide tourney, it was just not possible to make this thing perfect.

Next year, I have every intention of making this as flawless as possible.

[BraynDrayn]

Another close one with a few questions raised about non pre-registered voters: Ima, BambinoBear, and godess.

Guess we'll see what happens. Again, lets get some more votes and break the tie!

Err I voted in one, I didnt know you needed to be pre registered....so toss my ass out

I dont know either one of these guys well but have seen BHG around and he gets my vote on avatar alone.

That or my other tie breaker is whoever used cumquat in a previous post

[moses]

They're my thoughts exactly, mo'. Unfortunately, my anxiousness to get this thing out and going at a time where it would not conflict with Newt's GM game, exams for many of us, and the Christmas holidays, as well as a potential S-B wide tourney, it was just not possible to make this thing perfect.

Next year, I have every intention of making this as flawless as possible.
I think it's still entertaining though. Some of the match-ups have been good.

This year, it was one of those things:

"Hey, why don't we do a BOTPP?"

"Ok, let's do it."

And then you were rushed to set things up because of the factors you mentioned. I understand totally and I think the thing is going well as it is.

You live and learn -- I think what you've done, with the resources and time available has been pretty damn good. The first NFL-AFL championship had it's problems. But look what the Superbowl has turned into now.

That might be a bad analogy, but whatever. Things are going fine, imo.

[Enyalois]

I think it's still entertaining though. Some of the match-ups have been good.

This year, it was one of those things:

"Hey, why don't we do a BOTPP?"

"Ok, let's do it."

And then you were rushed to set things up because of the factors you mentioned. I understand totally and I think the thing is going well as it is.

You live and learn -- I think what you've done, with the resources and time available has been pretty damn good. The first NFL-AFL championship had it's problems. But look what the Superbowl has turned into now.

That might be a bad analogy, but whatever. Things are going fine, imo.
Way to fuck things up Moses. Just had to try and steal Newt's thunder and you've created this. *Claps (Think Judd Nelson in the Breakfast Club)*

[LWolf]

I disagree that everyone should vote.

We started the thing as a battle for phillies fans.

We know that most non-phillies fans know jack-shit about a lot of the phillies fans and it is simply unfair to open it to every voter. Certainly, people that go over to many other boards will have a much higher chance of winning although they may be a huge prick of a phillies fan.

Of course, there are people that know a lot about the phillies posters that are not having their vote counted. But look what happened last year -- people going to other boards and begging for votes from other teams' fans. That's pretty pathetic and I'd like to see that avoided this year.

At the same time, it sucks that certain people will not have their voice heard, but there was a time where we could nominate people to vote and those people were not nominated.

My opinion:

Restrict it to only phillies fans,

OR

Just accept the people who were pre-approved.


*Sidenote: I'm sorry if I'm taking some of your posts out of context as I didn't read everything in the thread.

*Additional sidenote: I don't want to get too up-in-arms about this. But last year got a bit ridiculous and HLICU got dicked over because we let everyone vote; it was totally unfair.

*Third sidenote: JayGlo is running the thing. It's up to him. I just don't want to see a repeat of last year.


This raises a number of interesting questions like who did that and why havent I thought ot that yet.

[moses]

This raises a number of interesting questions like who did that and why havent I thought ot that yet.
Rumor is this: JRoll went around and asked a bunch of people (who were otherwise indifferent to the BOTPP) to vote for him. He was uncovered as fixing the vote but still did not win (there was a tie). It went to a tie-breaker. JRoll was running the thing and I believe he might have even held the poll open longer / shorter than it was supposed to be so that he could beat out HLICU.

In the next round, I believe he was destroyed by abreu. But I'm not sure.

[MadNova]

Hmm...is Jroll included in this year's version?

He is technically an active member.

[moses]

Hmm...is Jroll included in this year's version?

He is technically an active member.
He was defeated in the preliminary rounds.

[Hey Look Its Chase Utley!]

He was defeated in the preliminary rounds.

I thought he was disqualified for stuffing the ballot box last year?

[moses]

I thought he was disqualified for stuffing the ballot box last year? Well, he was discredited for stuffing the ballot box last year.

In seriousness, he wasn't even considered in this since he hasn't posted here in 2 months (at least, I assume). And after last year and what happened a few months ago, I'm not sure he would have gotten very far, anyway.

It's unfortunate. He had a lot to contribute for quite some time.

[BHGangFan Part2]

Err I voted in one, I didnt know you needed to be pre registered....so toss my ass out

I dont know either one of these guys well but have seen BHG around and he gets my vote on avatar alone.

That or my other tie breaker is whoever used cumquat in a previous post

thanks Brayn, gotta make sure there's a fair amount of porn stars represented on the board

[BHGangFan Part2]

This raises a number of interesting questions like who did that and why havent I thought ot that yet.

I did it for the last BOTPP, but I only got 1 or 2 votes out of it so I'm not even bothering with it.

[BHGangFan Part2]

Looks like I'm gonna need a few more votes to pull this thing out.

[SU Nittany Tide]

Rumor is this: JRoll went around and asked a bunch of people (who were otherwise indifferent to the BOTPP) to vote for him. He was uncovered as fixing the vote but still did not win (there was a tie). It went to a tie-breaker. JRoll was running the thing and I believe he might have even held the poll open longer / shorter than it was supposed to be so that he could beat out HLICU.

In the next round, I believe he was destroyed by abreu. But I'm not sure.
He beat me something like 29-27 in the second round. I had a huge lead and would have to imagine that some of that recruiting took place. Bastards.

[SU Nittany Tide]

He beat me something like 29-27 in the second round. I had a huge lead and would have to imagine that some of that recruiting took place. Bastards.
I exaggerated I guess. Looking at the bottom of my matchup page I was able to find both of last years matchups. He beat me 17-15, though I was winning at one point something like 12-6. Kind of interesting going back to look at those matchups.

[moses]

I exaggerated I guess. Looking at the bottom of my matchup page I was able to find both of last years matchups. He beat me 17-15, though I was winning at one point something like 12-6. Kind of interesting going back to look at those matchups.
I had no clue you got screwed over too.

[LWolf]

I exaggerated I guess. Looking at the bottom of my matchup page I was able to find both of last years matchups. He beat me 17-15, though I was winning at one point something like 12-6. Kind of interesting going back to look at those matchups.


Where did you find the matchups from last year, I'd be interested to look at those too

[SU Nittany Tide]

Where did you find the matchups from last year, I'd be interested to look at those too
I just looked at the similar threads at the bottom of the matchup between nycphillie and myself. Both of my Phillies board matches happened to still be there.

[SU Nittany Tide]

I just looked at the similar threads at the bottom of the matchup between nycphillie and myself. Both of my Phillies board matches happened to still be there.
Yours was in the same place. Just incase you didnt look there, here ya go.

http://www.sports-boards.net/forums/showthread.php?t=28986

[LWolf]

Yours was in the same place. Just incase you didnt look there, here ya go.

http://www.sports-boards.net/forums/showthread.php?t=28986

Thanks for reminding me of that painful loss. At least I won my "play in game" last year

[SU Nittany Tide]

Thanks for reminding me of that painful loss. At least I won my "play in game" last year
I try to help out anytime I can.

[moses]

Thanks for reminding me of that painful loss. At least I won my "play in game" last year
I just created a thread with all that crap. The last link in it is probably the most useful as it says the battle and the winner of each battle.