Phillies New Manager

[PhilaVa]

Now that we have a list of all the guys who will be interviewed, this will be a better Poll then the pervious one was...

[thomeismyhomie]

Buddy Bell huh Phila? Could be. I gotta go with Manuel though.

[PhilaVa]

Buddy Bell huh Phila? Could be. I gotta go with Manuel though.

I really have no clue, I think it may be manual but I went with the Wild Card.

The question is will it be the real Buddy Bell, or the kid who played him in Hustle?

[thomeismyhomie]

I really have no clue, I think it may be manual but I went with the Wild Card.

The question is will it be the real Buddy Bell, or the kid who played him in Hustle?
I didnt get to see that movie. Was it as good as it looked?

[MadNova]

Bryant Gumble

[PhilaVa]

I didnt get to see that movie. Was it as good as it looked?

It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good. AND shut your mouth SuperMod.

[kwahraps]

It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good. AND shut your mouth SuperMod.
WIP said the movie was terrible. I'm not sure if they would have an agenda.
Of all their made-for-TV movies, it was the lowest rated one yet. Take that as you will . . .

[PhilaVa]

WIP said the movie was terrible. I'm not sure if they would have an agenda.
Of all their made-for-TV movies, it was the lowest rated one yet. Take that as you will . . .

I didn't think it was horrible, but it wasn't exactly the greatest thing I've ever seen, it could have been done a lot better.

[Purple Gorilla]

I read in the Star Tribune (MPLS paper) that if Manuel gets the job there's a good chance he'd bring in Kirby Puckett as some sort of coach.

I've always liked the Phillies, but this would push them right up behind the Twin's as my favorite team in baseball, it'd be cool to see Puck in uniform again, even if it wasn't a Twin's uni.

[JLove22]

yeah, that would be sweet, i really think manuel is going to get the job, i think bell would be an interesting choice also, cant wait to see who they get

[kwahraps]

I read in the Star Tribune (MPLS paper) that if Manuel gets the job there's a good chance he'd bring in Kirby Puckett as some sort of coach.

I've always liked the Phillies, but this would push them right up behind the Twin's as my favorite team in baseball, it'd be cool to see Puck in uniform again, even if it wasn't a Twin's uni.
I thought Puckett had removed himself from the public eye after that whole divorce/groping incident in 2002.

He'd be a great hitting coach . . . but I'd still go after Gwynn.

[thomeismyhomie]

I thought Puckett had removed himself from the public eye after that whole divorce/groping incident in 2002.

He'd be a great hitting coach . . . but I'd still go after Gwynn.
Ugh...not Gwynn. He sure did help JRoll and Byrd this offseason, huh. Those guys both hit about .180 the first two months of the year after studying with Gwynn.

[JRoll]

Ugh...not Gwynn. He sure did help JRoll and Byrd this offseason, huh. Those guys both hit about .180 the first two months of the year after studying with Gwynn.
Didn't Manuel fix both of them then? Or did JRoll fix himself and Manuel just help Byrd?

4 to go.

[thomeismyhomie]

Didn't Manuel fix both of them then? Or did JRoll fix himself and Manuel just help Byrd?

4 to go.
I dont know...good question. I think *gasp* Greg Gross suggested that JRoll open his stance up a bit more, and he flourished after that.

[JRoll]

I dont know...good question. I think *gasp* Greg Gross suggested that JRoll open his stance up a bit more, and he flourished after that.
You mean Gross actually did something for once? I'm amazed, I thought he was just there for show :p

2 to go.

[thomeismyhomie]

You mean Gross actually did something for once? I'm amazed, I thought he was just there for show :p

2 to go.
Sorta like Lidle and Madson giving Kerrigan credit for fixing them.

[JRoll]

Sorta like Lidle and Madson giving Kerrigan credit for fixing them.
Can't believe Kerrigan did something right also. :p

1 to go.

[brgood]

Hey there guys

I see Jim Fregosi is back in town in a few days for an interview, do you take note of the trend here with all the managers being brought in to town, the quiet, layed back type approach to managing, the anti-Bowa is exactly what it is. I have to go with Manuel and Fregosi as the top two candiates to get the job, it would be nice to see Fregosi back in town he is the type of guy who can relax the clubhouse but we need a leader in the clubhouse(Varitek) to make sure this team does not fold like it did the last few years. Fregosi in town means more than likely the return of some of the 93 team as coaches, IE Dutch Dalton and Dykstra.

BG

Camp Freedom Iraq

[thomeismyhomie]

Hey there guys

I see Jim Fregosi is back in town in a few days for an interview, do you take note of the trend here with all the managers being brought in to town, the quiet, layed back type approach to managing, the anti-Bowa is exactly what it is. I have to go with Manuel and Fregosi as the top two candiates to get the job, it would be nice to see Fregosi back in town he is the type of guy who can relax the clubhouse but we need a leader in the clubhouse(Varitek) to make sure this team does not fold like it did the last few years. Fregosi in town means more than likely the return of some of the 93 team as coaches, IE Dutch Dalton and Dykstra.

BG

Camp Freedom Iraq
Dykstra just signed on with the Mets, unfortunately and Fregosi is definitely not the anti-Bowa. Manuel seems to be the popular pick but I wouldnt count out Baylor. Funny how noone has even voted for him yet.

[brgood]

Fregosi to me is alot different than Bowa, Look at the way the guys played in 1993, I have never seen a more relaxed clubhouse than that. Dutch and Dykystra had alot to do with that and I know it was the combination of characters we had on that team but it all stems from the leader you have in the clubhouse. Fregosi knows when to push buttons unlike Bowa, we lost one of the best in the league in Rolen becasue he didnt play the way Bowa wanted him to, I think Fregosi or Manuel would be good for this ballclub but like everything else it depends on the supporting staff of coaches who work in the shadows who will help this team get over the hump. We need a quality pitching coach first and foremost, someone who is respected and can teach the young arms we have how to pitch.

BG

[thomeismyhomie]

I think Fregosi is a better manager, but he's kind of a nut as well. Thats all I was saying.

[brgood]

I agree with you on that one, He had to be a nut to manage than ballclub in 93.

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[thomeismyhomie]

I agree with you on that one, He had to be a nut to manage than ballclub in 93.

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I'd be totally fine with him coming back though. It wasnt Bowa's fire that brought us down at all.

[brgood]

Not at all that is just the way Bowa is nothing you can do about that he wanted to win all 162 games nothing changed from when he was a player, its just some of the guys in the club house didnt respond to well to that. When did Fregosi get the ax the first time around 1995. He managed the Blue Jays for a little bit didnt he?

BG

[brgood]

Hey Thomeismyhomie how the hell do you go from Promising Prospect and up the food chain as far as the rating is concerned, my Rep Power sucks too.

BG

[thomeismyhomie]

You just have to keep posting. You gain a rep power point for every 75 posts. Then if you get 100 user points, you get another green dot and some more power. Every 100 pts after that, you get another dot. I left you a rep so you should have at least 16 rep points cause my power is 16. Also, after you get up in the hundreds, you'll get to be a bench warmer, starter, all-star....etc. Just takes time, or a ton of boredom, which you understandably dont have. Take care.

[thomeismyhomie]

You just have to keep posting. You gain a rep power point for every 75 posts. Then if you get 100 user points, you get another green dot and some more power. Every 100 pts after that, you get another dot. I left you a rep so you should have at least 16 rep points cause my power is 16. Also, after you get up in the hundreds, you'll get to be a bench warmer, starter, all-star....etc. Just takes time, or a ton of boredom, which you understandably dont have. Take care.
See I just went from 16 to 17 cause my posts hit 825. I got one at 750 and now another 75 posts later. It takes getting used to.

[brgood]

Appreciate it Thomeismyhomie. How many more candiates are coming in, I hear Terry pendelton is going to be coming in for an interview have you heard anything back there about this.

BG

[brgood]

Is Willie Randolph going to get a look at the end of the postseason, The guy has alot of playoff experience as a player and a coach with a franchise that knows alittle something about winning.

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[thomeismyhomie]

Appreciate it Thomeismyhomie. How many more candiates are coming in, I hear Terry pendelton is going to be coming in for an interview have you heard anything back there about this.

BG
Wow....ya know I didnt hear that. Did you see the post earlier about Manuel possibly bringing in Kirby Puckett if he gets the job?

[thomeismyhomie]

Is Willie Randolph going to get a look at the end of the postseason, The guy has alot of playoff experience as a player and a coach with a franchise that knows alittle something about winning.

BG
I think there's a really good chance of Randolph. Here's the only thing though: many of the Phils free-agents want to know who the coaches will be before deciding their futures. I think the deadline is November 2nd...or maybe the 12th. So there isnt much time especially if Randolph is still coaching in November.

[brgood]

No I did not hear anything about Puckett but I checked ESPN this morning and they had mention of Pendelton coming in for an interview. Why in the hell are they interving Buddy Bell as a favor to his son, the guy is a horrrible manager.

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[thomeismyhomie]

No I did not hear anything about Puckett but I checked ESPN this morning and they had mention of Pendelton coming in for an interview. Why in the hell are they interving Buddy Bell as a favor to his son, the guy is a horrrible manager.

BG
Who knows what in the hell Wade and Co. have up their sleeves anymore. I think they already know what they're going to do, this is all formality.

[brgood]

What about anyone else from the Yankees Staff or the Cardinals staff that could come in an be intervied besides Randolph. Also any candiates pop up for pitching coach?

BG

[thomeismyhomie]

What about anyone else from the Yankees Staff or the Cardinals staff that could come in an be intervied besides Randolph. Also any candiates pop up for pitching coach?

BG
I dont think we could even interview any more guys. We have had enough already IMO. As far as pitching goes, the guys here are hard up that Larry Anderson is going to be the man for the job, but there's never been any proof of that. It's awfully hard to think of names when you think about pitching coaches. Anyone know what Mitch Williams is doing these days? LOL

[PhilaVa]

I dont think we could even interview any more guys. We have had enough already IMO. As far as pitching goes, the guys here are hard up that Larry Anderson is going to be the man for the job, but there's never been any proof of that. It's awfully hard to think of names when you think about pitching coaches. Anyone know what Mitch Williams is doing these days? LOL

Pitching coach is as good of a guess as any, the new manager will pick him, so until we know who is giong to be our manager we can't even make an educated guess about the pitching coach. You know these guys like to bring their buds in, another reason why baseball is crap.

[brgood]

I dont think Mitch wants to make an appearance in Phila any time soon, What about a name from the phillies past such as John Denny we all know Lefty is a recluse and would never come out of his confinement to be the Phillies Pitching coach but I could not think of a better guy to teach a guy like Wolf how in the hell to pitch. Kevin Gross is another name that comes back at you, he was a decent pitcher for the Phillies for years when all they finished year in and year out in second place to the Mets. Of course it does not have to be an ex Phillie I would love to find a diamond in the rough like Leo Mazzone the guy is one hell of a pitching coach and I hate the fricking Braves.

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[thomeismyhomie]

Pitching coach is as good of a guess as any, the new manager will pick him, so until we know who is giong to be our manager we can't even make an educated guess about the pitching coach. You know these guys like to bring their buds in, another reason why baseball is crap.
Yeah, but it's not really any different than football. Same thing goes for that as well. Phila, do you remember when the free agent deadline is? I know its in the beginning of Novemeber.

[PhilaVa]

Yeah, but it's not really any different than football. Same thing goes for that as well. Phila, do you remember when the free agent deadline is? I know its in the beginning of Novemeber.

I disagree, the same type of nothing, you don't bring in your friends in football unless they know what they are doing. Baseball you can bring your stupid friends in and no one says anything..and no, i'm not sure. Probably in November, I'd say Mid - November.

[thomeismyhomie]

I disagree, the same type of nothing, you don't bring in your friends in football unless they know what they are doing. Baseball you can bring your stupid friends in and no one says anything..and no, i'm not sure. Probably in November, I'd say Mid - November.
You're right, it may not be the same throughout the league as it has been for me as a Niners fan. When we lose a coach, we lose the whole staff. Then fucking idiot erickson brings in HIS GUYS instead of keeping Jim Mora Jr. and Greg Knapp around. yeah, you see what Atlanta is doing and you see where our staff is getting us. Pisses me off.

[brgood]

So if Manuel comes in he would like to bring Pucket in as hitting coach, it would be nice to look down the dugout and see a Hall of Famer down there. Who was on his staff in Clevland and did Hargrove get a look yet?

BG

[thomeismyhomie]

So if Manuel comes in he would like to bring Pucket in as hitting coach, it would be nice to look down the dugout and see a Hall of Famer down there. Who was on his staff in Clevland and did Hargrove get a look yet?

BG
AHHh...dont bring Hargrove up..LOL. I was begging for him to be our manager and have Manuel as our hitting coach, but it never happened. Too bad. Eric Wedge is the only guy I remember being on his staff.

[PhilaVa]

So if Manuel comes in he would like to bring Pucket in as hitting coach, it would be nice to look down the dugout and see a Hall of Famer down there. Who was on his staff in Clevland and did Hargrove get a look yet?

BG

Yeah I heard the puckett story today, that would be sweet, we could trump the braves and Terry Pendalton with that one.

I'm not even sure Hargrove is getting an interview...maybe he will come in with Manual if he is hired.

Typical Philadelphia though, look at the support Fergosi is getting just in this poll, makes me laugh so much... Mike Schmit and Steve Carlton would be managers if the town had anything to do with it.

[thomeismyhomie]

Yeah I heard the puckett story today, that would be sweet, we could trump the braves and Terry Pendalton with that one.

I'm not even sure Hargrove is getting an interview...maybe he will come in with Manual if he is hired.

Typical Philadelphia though, look at the support Fergosi is getting just in this poll, makes me laugh so much... Mike Schmit and Steve Carlton would be managers if the town had anything to do with it.
LOL...you know...Mike Schmidt is my all-time hero. He was the reason why I loved the Phillies when I was 8 years old. But no way, no how, do I want him as our manager. Great player does not equal great manager.

[PhilaVa]

LOL...you know...Mike Schmidt is my all-time hero. He was the reason why I loved the Phillies when I was 8 years old. But no way, no how, do I want him as our manager. Great player does not equal great manager.

I'm not sure what his deal is...does he still want to manage or is he done with it after his experience this year?

I was too young for schmidt, I don't remember much after the 93 WS as far as PERSONAL MEMORIES, I need tape for everything else. Then again '93 was so bad it probably just shocked everything out of my head. I def. wasn't as big a Philly fan as I am now until around middle school, something just clicked.

[brgood]

Schmidt would never be a manager who is to full of himself I have had the opportunity to meet him on several occasions as I used to work for EB Sports Cards and we had him sign stuff for us the guy is a prick. Carlton I think if could just relay what he used on the mound would be a hell of a pitching coach for the phillies, he just is a very private man who does not want to be bothered by the media or really have anything to do with the Phillies. Its ashame when you think about the way Phillies fans love these two guys they are larger than life and yet neither want to be bothered with the Phillies sure they come back once a year god forbid if they would sign some little kids hat they would rather sell there autograph on there web sites for $50 a pop. Its ashame

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[thomeismyhomie]

I'm not sure what his deal is...does he still want to manage or is he done with it after his experience this year?

I was too young for schmidt, I don't remember much after the 93 WS as far as PERSONAL MEMORIES, I need tape for everything else. Then again '93 was so bad it probably just shocked everything out of my head. I def. wasn't as big a Philly fan as I am now until around middle school, something just clicked.
I was really young but I still vividly remember Schmidt's retirement speech. It was the first time in my life I told my dad to shut up. I'll never forget it. He busted on Schmidt cause he was crying. So I ran away crying and told him to shut up. Geez...I cant remember what I did 10 minutes ago, but I remember that...LOL

[PhilaVa]

I was really young but I still vividly remember Schmidt's retirement speech. It was the first time in my life I told my dad to shut up. I'll never forget it. He busted on Schmidt cause he was crying. So I ran away crying and told him to shut up. Geez...I cant remember what I did 10 minutes ago, but I remember that...LOL

The first thing I can remember is Joe Carter and Duke / Kentucky in 92, I remember watching both of them, I was around 10 at the time. One great memory, one really bad memory.

Other then that, everything else is more recent, Cunningham to Lindros crying at the EsPys (speaking of crying)

BRgood, I agree with you, it is a shame, but what else would we expect with the management we have with this team. I know its they way those guys are but it would help if you know what I mean.

I'm about to fall asleep, good to talk to you again BR, later Thome.

[brgood]

I remember the time he put on a wig and ran out to first base with shades, I was at the stadium but for me the best memory I will ever have of the Vet and the Phillies was Mullhollands no hitter my dad took me to the game right before I left for my Freshman year at college, the atmosphere in the VET that night is something I will never forget, our team that year was shit, Daulton, Charlie Hayes, Dickie Thon, Morandini, Kruk, Dykstra, But that night they were the best ballclub in the land. I am a big schmidt fan to I just think he needs to treat the fans a little better than what he did is all, especially the little kids. If you guys ever need thoughts on some of the old timers IE 1980 and above just call on the old man I have been to a lot of Phillies games, and hopefully I will have plenty more to see when I get home.


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[thomeismyhomie]

Yeah, Duke/Kentucky. I was watching with my parents, who are HUGE Duke fans. Thats what hooked me on them

I remember Mullhollands no-no. It was against the Giants, right? It was an ESPN night game form what I recall. Charlie Hayes caught a liner to end it? Am I close? i was pretty young...LOL

[thomeismyhomie]

The first thing I can remember is Joe Carter and Duke / Kentucky in 92, I remember watching both of them, I was around 10 at the time. One great memory, one really bad memory.

Other then that, everything else is more recent, Cunningham to Lindros crying at the EsPys (speaking of crying)

BRgood, I agree with you, it is a shame, but what else would we expect with the management we have with this team. I know its they way those guys are but it would help if you know what I mean.

I'm about to fall asleep, good to talk to you again BR, later Thome.
Later Phila

[brgood]

Thomeismyhomie you are right, Gary Carter came up to pinch hit and hit a screamer down the third base line that Hayes speared, Hayes also made an error that game that cost Terry A perfect game, I will never forget keeping score and turning to my dad and telling him Mullholland had a no no, my dad simply nodded and it was the top of the 7th, Mullholland and Hayes had just come over from the Giants in a trade.

BG

[Ryno]

rule 482b - "... and any poll that has more than one choice MUST include bryant gumble as an 'other' choice."

other = bryant gumble.


:)

[PhilaVa]

rule 482b - "... and any poll that has more than one choice MUST include bryant gumble as an 'other' choice."

other = bryant gumble.


:)
Ok people, enough of this Gumble crap, I've had enough, the Philadelphia Phillies board is now officially anti-gumble.

[thomeismyhomie]

Ok people, enough of this Gumble crap, I've had enough, the Philadelphia Phillies board is now officially anti-gumble.
Thank you Phila! Bryant Gumble sucks.

[MadNova]

Thank you Phila! Bryant Gumble sucks.

Enjoy that bad rep.


On a side note, how about Joe Torre?

[PhilaVa]

Enjoy that bad rep.


On a side note, how about Joe Torre?

Psh...loser, can't win with a 200 Million dollar payroll.

Bowa > Torre

[JLove22]

Psh...loser, can't win with a 200 Million dollar payroll.

Bowa > Torre
ha, maybe he can bring zimmer with him

[PhilaVa]

ha, maybe he can bring zimmer with him

Zims got it out for the Latins, Abreu, Perez, Padilla wouldn't be happy with that move...

[Stuck_in_Alabama]

Sorta like Lidle and Madson giving Kerrigan credit for fixing them.
Some pitching and hitting coaches get through to some players, don't get through to others or just plain give bad advice. I think Gross was the first 2 as a hitting coach and not the 3rd and Kerrigan was the first and last. Just my opinion. Of course the last choice that you will never learn about is that the player just didn't want to be told they were doing something wrong.

[thomeismyhomie]

Some pitching and hitting coaches get through to some players, don't get through to others or just plain give bad advice. I think Gross was the first 2 as a hitting coach and not the 3rd and Kerrigan was the first and last. Just my opinion. Of course the last choice that you will never learn about is that the player just didn't want to be told they were doing something wrong.
Oh yes...you can never really get a grasp on just how much egos have to do with everything.

[Stuck_in_Alabama]

It is funny how fast pitching and hitting coaches get fired in MLB, especially ones that were heros the year before and called miracle workers. I especially find it funny with pitching coaches. One year a staff has a great year without much talent and they pitching coach is a miracle worker. The next year that same untalented staff pitches like it should and has a horrible season and the pitching coach gets fired. DUH!

[thomeismyhomie]

It is funny how fast pitching and hitting coaches get fired in MLB, especially ones that were heros the year before and called miracle workers. I especially find it funny with pitching coaches. One year a staff has a great year without much talent and they pitching coach is a miracle worker. The next year that same untalented staff pitches like it should and has a horrible season and the pitching coach gets fired. DUH!
Ha....youre right man. Those poor guys get replaced as if they were simply assembly parts.

[Stuck_in_Alabama]

Kind of drives me crazy. The blame is never really put on the players for underachieving in MLB because of those guaranteed contracts. Wish it were like the NFL. You have a bad season and they can cut you or force you to renegotiate your contract.

[PhilaVa]

Kind of drives me crazy. The blame is never really put on the players for underachieving in MLB because of those guaranteed contracts. Wish it were like the NFL. You have a bad season and they can cut you or force you to renegotiate your contract.
In a perfect world...Kevin Millwood would have been out of Baseball after the past two years...another reason Baseball still cannot get things straight, Bud is a moron, I know it's not his fault but he is still a moron.

[kwahraps]

In a perfect world...Kevin Millwood would have been out of Baseball after the past two years...another reason Baseball still cannot get things straight, Bud is a moron, I know it's not his fault but he is still a moron.
Do you blame Millwood or the GM who thought he was "ace" material?

[JWUGoalie26]

now we can start the indians reunion... sweet..... Fukin management...