View Full Version : September 26, 2004 - Detroit Lions vs. Philadelphia Eagles
PhilaVa
09-24-2004, 11:27 AM
Here, I'll start a thread for the game, make it a bit easier and less confusing for the game.
Well...anyway, I'm thinking Kevin Jones may be a problem, even though he looks like a rookie in the first two games.
I also hope we don't kill Joey by the end of the game. Hate to see Murder by Football.
jcarm22
09-24-2004, 11:34 AM
I think there are two main keys to the game: Get the early lead, and get in Harrington's face. If the Eagles can open a 10 point lead in the first quarter, and keep rolling with it, the Lions will be forced to go to the air to play catch-up.
The only thing that worries me about this game is that the Eagles were 1-2 last year after Monday Night games, and 4-3 after MNF games under Big Red. We all know Reid is automatic after bye weeks, but he's had some problems with the six-day weeks.
PhilaVa
09-24-2004, 11:37 AM
I think there are two main keys to the game: Get the early lead, and get in Harrington's face. If the Eagles can open a 10 point lead in the first quarter, and keep rolling with it, the Lions will be forced to go to the air to play catch-up.
The only thing that worries me about this game is that the Eagles were 1-2 last year after Monday Night games, and 4-3 after MNF games under Big Red. We all know Reid is automatic after bye weeks, but he's had some problems with the six-day weeks.
I agree...seems like it may be a problem, but the only thing I can say to calm that down is this is the first ROAD game, so I guess that could add to the problem or be the solution to focus the guys.
I don't know about you guys but...I just can't wait to see what else our offense will do, I mean have we really been stopped yet? TO has really opened things up....I'm Lovin It...
Domino427
09-24-2004, 02:30 PM
Lookin for a big win, but I'm not ruling out a close game either. Similar prediction to last week, although I feel that Detroit's D is better than Minnesota's, but Minny has the obvious advantage on O.
Does Kevin Jones have a breakout game? Possibly, but I doubt it. We'll definately get pressure on Harrington...the question is...has he finally matured enough to make the smart decisions under pressure?
Should be a good one. 24-17, Eagles Victory.
PhilaVa
09-24-2004, 02:37 PM
I'm going to have to go with...
Eagles 35 - Lions 14
McNabb has another great game...Westbrook goes for 100 yrds in the air, 75 on the ground.
sully
09-24-2004, 04:57 PM
Hey, this saves me the effort of doing it.
What we do here is somewhat interesting. On Sunday, I make game threads on the boards of both teams, then redirect them to the NFLGD board where both (In this case) Eagles and Lions fans can talk about the game in one thread.
For those confused, I don't know how to better explain it, but you'll see it in action on Sunday.
phan52
09-24-2004, 07:43 PM
I don't think Kevin Jones will be ready to do a lot of damage yet. He's gonna be a good one, but he still plays like a rook.
Westbrook is going to have a huge game. The Lions are missing Boss Bailey and Westbrook will have a field day with their LB's. At least 150-175 total yards.....
Harrington avoids the sacks, but sometimes by throwing it up for grabs.
If the Eagles can avoid the Monday Night hangover, this game shouldn't be close. But they were only 1-2 after Monday Night last season....
SirCharles14
09-25-2004, 09:51 AM
The only thing that worries me about this game is that the Eagles were 1-2 last year after Monday Night games, and 4-3 after MNF games under Big Red. We all know Reid is automatic after bye weeks, but he's had some problems with the six-day weeks.
Yeah, but past records mean nothing, and espcially against a young team that can be pushed into making mistakes. If we get an early lead and can keep pressure on Harrington, I think we can get 3 picks in the game and cruise. That, or Harrington has a perfect day and gets 300+ yards 3 tds...
jcarm22
09-25-2004, 11:15 AM
Yeah, but past records mean nothing, and espcially against a young team that can be pushed into making mistakes. If we get an early lead and can keep pressure on Harrington, I think we can get 3 picks in the game and cruise. That, or Harrington has a perfect day and gets 300+ yards 3 tds...
Those who ignore history's lessons are doomed to repeat them.
SirCharles14
09-25-2004, 11:38 AM
Those who ignore history's lessons are doomed to repeat them.
I'm just saying that the last 4 times the eagles played after a monday has nothign to do with this time. It isn't a fact that they are only going to win 1 out of every 4 games or anything. And who said reid was doing anything wrong with the team between monday and sunday, if so then he is the one to fix them. Just because a team has won 8 out of 10 in a certain situation doesn't mean they have an 80% chance to win if they are in it again, every game is a totally independant trial, and past experiences mean very little to nothing.
jcarm22
09-25-2004, 12:01 PM
I'm just saying that the last 4 times the eagles played after a monday has nothign to do with this time. It isn't a fact that they are only going to win 1 out of every 4 games or anything. And who said reid was doing anything wrong with the team between monday and sunday, if so then he is the one to fix them. Just because a team has won 8 out of 10 in a certain situation doesn't mean they have an 80% chance to win if they are in it again, every game is a totally independant trial, and past experiences mean very little to nothing.
I am in no way, shape or form suggesting that the Eagles are guaranteed to lose this week because of what transpired last year, the year before that, and so on. There are just certain things that look meaningless but turn into trends. Just last week we were discussing A) Reid's prime-time success and B) Minnesota's road struggles. Obviously, the Vikings didn't lose on Monday night because they'd lost eleven of their previous twelve games on the road, and the Eagles didn't win because they had won eleven of their previous twelve regular-season prime-time games. But, at the same time, the Eagles continued their winning ways in prime time, and the Vikes continued to struggle outside of the Metrodome. You obviously can't put 100% blind faith in trends (see: '02 NFC Championship), but they have a way of sneaking up on people that are quick to dismiss them.
SirCharles14
09-25-2004, 12:29 PM
but they have a way of sneaking up on people that are quick to dismiss them.
I agree, but I'd rather talk about what the eagles plan to do against the lions than what they have to do to overcome the trend of losing since they are playing on a sunday after a monday night game. If the lions were to win, you know some people would use it as a cop out, eagles didn't play well because of 6 days rest. I hate to not credit a team with a win. ayway, I'm out, later guys
Enyalois
09-25-2004, 04:12 PM
I don't think the 4-3 after Monday night is terrible. So take out the 1-2 last year and its 3-1. Looking at last year I know one loss was to the Pats, which is respectable(unless you consider the way they dismantled the team) I can't think of who the other loss would have been to, anyone?
jcarm22
09-25-2004, 06:34 PM
I don't think the 4-3 after Monday night is terrible. So take out the 1-2 last year and its 3-1. Looking at last year I know one loss was to the Pats, which is respectable(unless you consider the way they dismantled the team) I can't think of who the other loss would have been to, anyone?
The other loss last year was to San Francisco at home, after going down to Miami and winning on Monday Night.
Slobfather
09-26-2004, 07:28 AM
I think this game will be a little bit closer than most are giving us credit for. I predict this will be the week that Kevin Jones breaks out, and that he will bust one for at least 40 yards.
In the end we will fall just short, and lose by a FG...
Eagles 27
Lions 24
The Lions need to maintain pressure on Mcnabb...Lehman is gonna have a ton of responsibility. If the LB's can do an above average job of containing Mcnabb, and we can keep pressure on him i think they can force him into mistakes...A healthy Bly would be a huge blessing but its not gonna happen....Joey is gonna have to be poised today..Philly applys a ton of pressure. They had Culpepper looking confused as heck last week....
sully
09-26-2004, 07:37 AM
If you guys don't mind, I'll move this thread to NFLGD and combine it to make the Lions-Eagles gameday thread.
you are the boss no prob here......
GodofMike
09-26-2004, 07:42 AM
DET 27
Phi 23
I hope we win!!!
Slobfather
09-26-2004, 07:43 AM
Joey is gonna have to be poised today..Philly applys a ton of pressure. They had Culpepper looking confused as heck last week....
Ya, Philly impressed the hell out of me last week with their passrushing abilities. Not since the 84 Bears have I seen a team so dominant on the line of scrimmage.
That being said, Cullpeper is known for hanging onto the ball until the last possible moment, which is why he has so many fumbles. That played right into the Eagles game. Harrington on the other hand, is notorious for getting the ball out quicky (to quickly if you ask me), and that should help negate the Eagles passrush a little bit.
Now, before the Viking fans come over here and call me crazy, I am in no way trying to say that Harrington is a better QB than Cullpeper. I am just saying that what I feel is one of Harringtons flaws, may be a benefit in this game.
i think ALOT of DC's fumbles are due to the fact that the guy has TINY hands....have you ever paind attention to them? they are really small...
sully
09-26-2004, 07:47 AM
That fumble Monday night wasn't due to his hands, though (I know that's not what you're saying). Daunte had the ball tucked into his arm at his elbow, and Nate Wayne just made a stellar play to strip it out.
yeah MR MONDAY NIGHT(wayne) did make a great play.
Slobfather
09-26-2004, 07:53 AM
I don't think Kevin Jones will be ready to do a lot of damage yet. He's gonna be a good one, but he still plays like a rook.
Westbrook is going to have a huge game. The Lions are missing Boss Bailey and Westbrook will have a field day with their LB's. At least 150-175 total yards.....
Harrington avoids the sacks, but sometimes by throwing it up for grabs.
If the Eagles can avoid the Monday Night hangover, this game shouldn't be close. But they were only 1-2 after Monday Night last season....
Hmmmm....I'm curious as to what makes you say "Jones plays like a rook". Have you watched the Lions play? Or is this just contrived out of pure hope?
Harrington has taken HUGE strides since last season. That statement would be 100% accurate if you are talking about the Joey Harrington of last season. However, like most QBs that have played 2 full seasons, he is getting MUCH better in his decision making. Has he improved enough to carry this team through this game? I dont think so. However, if you are counting on Harrington to hand this game over to you....well, you could be in for a rude awakening.
paisano
09-26-2004, 10:42 AM
Detroit should make this game interesting in the beginning, but I'm beginning to worry that this game will be the spitten image of the MSU vs. Notre Dame game last week. We've played like that too, where we compete the first few minutes and then lose steam shortly after.
Another part of me feels that this is a different kind of Lions team than we are used to, and therefore I tend to agree with what slob just posted.
The Kid
09-26-2004, 11:49 AM
My game prediction
LIONS
Joey Harrington: 215 yards, 2 td, 1int
Roy Williams: 6 rec, 100 yards, 1td
Kevin Jones: 15 carries, 85 yards
Hakim: 3 rec, 25 yards, 1td
Defense: 2int, 1fumble, holding Philly to only 230 yards total
EAGLES
D. Mcnabb: 120 yards, 2td, 2int
Terrell Owens: 5 rec, 70 yards, 2td
Westbrook: 17 carries, 55 yards, 1td, fumble
GO LIONS
DarkStar
09-26-2004, 12:01 PM
I think with everyone concentrating on the Eagles D-line, the fact that Detroit's front four have played stellar is being lost. Shaun Rogers has been unblockable all season, Wilkinson has been tough, and James Hall has applied much needed edge pressure while still standing up the run. Everyone who says Westbrook is going to run wild all over us is overlooking the fact that our run D is pretty good. McNabb and T.O. are a worry with Bly and Goodman out, But IMO the Lions front seven has an edge on run D. This game could be a lot close than everyone is giving it credit for.
Eagles 24
Lions 20
Eagles have to win through the air, But this is McNabb, not David Carr.
Domino427
09-26-2004, 12:59 PM
Taunting? Now that's bullshit. This guy works his ass of for his whole fuckin career, and then the No Fun League has to penalize him for enjoying his one moment of glory. And it wasn't even taunting. TO on the Dallas star was taunting. Emulating your job to add some humor? What the Fuck is that?
DarkStar
09-26-2004, 01:27 PM
What did I tell ya? Eagles wining through the air. Roy Williams is the MAN! The first half can be summed in three words: Too much Mcnabb.
Slobfather
09-26-2004, 01:29 PM
What did I tell ya? Eagles wining through the air. Roy Williams is the MAN! The first half can be summed in three words: Too much Mcnabb.
Yep, we have no answer to McNabb...
HOWEVER.......
We are just one big play away from getting back into this game!
I know, I know, I'm dreaming right?
jcarm22
09-26-2004, 01:36 PM
Yep, we have no answer to McNabb...
HOWEVER.......
We are just one big play away from getting back into this game!
I know, I know, I'm dreaming right?
You're also one big play away from being down three touchdowns.
DarkStar
09-26-2004, 01:43 PM
Um...
Were you watching the same game we were? We WERE down by three touchdowns. Joey really pulled himself together in the two minute drill and made some great passes. Roy is...well, Roy is just stellar. Rookie of the year, just put his name on the trophy now.
jcarm22
09-26-2004, 03:10 PM
Um...
Were you watching the same game we were? We WERE down by three touchdowns. Joey really pulled himself together in the two minute drill and made some great passes. Roy is...well, Roy is just stellar. Rookie of the year, just put his name on the trophy now.
When I posted that, it was halftime, and the score was 21-7. You weren't down three touchdowns.
And Roy Williams looks amazing. He's an absolute beast.
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