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PhilaVa
03-20-2005, 10:36 PM
Now the best college basketball coach in the history of college basketball coaches. Move over Dean, you got nothing. Duke enters the sweet 16 for the 8th straight year. Respect.

http://sports-att.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=254000034

PhilaVa
03-20-2005, 11:05 PM
Now the best college basketball coach in the history of college basketball coaches. Move over Dean, you got nothing. Duke enters the sweet 16 for the 8th straight year. Respect.

http://sports-att.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=254000034
Humph, Dean having a rough week...losses the all time tourney lead and the all time win lead, to a women.

Whiskey
03-20-2005, 11:06 PM
That Coach Sheshefski they got there in Duke really is a great coach.

Congrats to him.

JRoll
03-20-2005, 11:07 PM
Now the best college basketball coach in the history of college basketball coaches. Move over Dean, you got nothing. Duke enters the sweet 16 for the 8th straight year. Respect.

http://sports-att.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=254000034
Congrats to him. He truly is one of the best ever.

Hey Look Its Chase Utley!
03-20-2005, 11:17 PM
Now the best college basketball coach in the history of college basketball coaches. Move over Dean, you got nothing.
Really, whose John Wooden coaching again?

Y.O.M.
03-20-2005, 11:19 PM
Congrats to him. He truly is one of the best ever.
Moron. Coach K is great, but he's no Dean Smith. 8 straight years? Dean went 13 in a row. Dean went 27 years straight with 20 + win seasons. 27! He has 13 ACC titles.

Coach K is great, but Dean Smith isn't "movin over" for shit.



Would you fuckers please quit quoting Phila? I'm tired of waking up to his garbage.

PhilaVa
03-20-2005, 11:19 PM
Really, whose John Wooden coaching again?
Easier to win back when he had the only team anyone wanted to play on...comparison not too good.

JRoll
03-20-2005, 11:23 PM
Moron. Coach K is great, but he's no Dean Smith. 8 straight years? Dean went 13 in a row. Dean went 27 years straight with 20 + win seasons. 27! He has 13 ACC titles.

Coach K is great, but Dean Smith isn't "movin over" for shit.



Would you fuckers please quit quoting Phila? I'm tired of waking up to his garbage.
Yes sir!

PhilaVa
03-20-2005, 11:24 PM
Moron. Coach K is great, but he's no Dean Smith. 8 straight years? Dean went 13 in a row. Dean went 27 years straight with 20 + win seasons. 27! He has 13 ACC titles.

Coach K is great, but Dean Smith isn't "movin over" for shit.



Would you fuckers please quit quoting Phila? I'm tired of waking up to his garbage.
20 NCAA Tournament Bids
12 Time National Coach of the Year
10 Regular Season ACC Titles
10 Final Fours
8 ACC Tournament Titles (Including Six Straight Years)

Todays news, most tournament wins EVER.

And more importantly, 3 National Championships. And still going...

Y.O.M.
03-20-2005, 11:26 PM
Yes sir!
Thank you kindly. Coach K has certainly not surpassed Dean Smith. Not by any means. In due time he will, but not yet.

JRoll
03-20-2005, 11:27 PM
Thank you kindly. Coach K has certainly not surpassed Dean Smith. Not by any means. In due time he will, but not yet.
I agree. Coach K is well on his way, he's almost there, but not quite. That doesn't take away from the fact that he is still one of the best ever though.

PhilaVa
03-20-2005, 11:32 PM
I agree. Coach K is well on his way, he's almost there, but not quite. That doesn't take away from the fact that he is still one of the best ever though.
Most tournament wins ever....

3 National Championships.

Smith now ranks second and only has 2.

What else should Mikey K have to do...?

The_swami_sez
03-20-2005, 11:38 PM
Sorry but John Wooden is by far the best coach in college basketball history

And Philva you say his team was the only one people wanted to play on, if Coach K was truely the best it would be the same way but he is not and will never be the best.

PhilaVa
03-20-2005, 11:40 PM
Sorry but John Wooden is by far the best coach in college basketball history

And Philva you say his team was the only one people wanted to play on, if Coach K was truely the best it would be the same way but he is not and will never be the best.
Wooden got any player he wanted without lifting a finger. If anyone is close to that in this college basketball age, it's Mikey K...except there are several other factors that K has to deal with including better competition. You can't even make the comparison, it's not fair to either of them.

The_swami_sez
03-21-2005, 07:30 AM
Wooden got any player he wanted without lifting a finger. If anyone is close to that in this college basketball age, it's Mikey K...except there are several other factors that K has to deal with including better competition. You can't even make the comparison, it's not fair to either of them.
If he can get any player he wants why do so many of them go to the NBA right out of high school? Duke would be great with Lebron James but the fact is that he would of gone to Maryland if he had attended college.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 09:11 AM
If he can get any player he wants why do so many of them go to the NBA right out of high school? Duke would be great with Lebron James but the fact is that he would of gone to Maryland if he had attended college.
I never said he could get any player he wanted, when you feel like actually reading my post we can continue this discussion.

Roy Munson
03-21-2005, 09:13 AM
Now the best college basketball coach in the history of college basketball coaches. Move over Dean, you got nothing. Duke enters the sweet 16 for the 8th straight year. Respect.

http://sports-att.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=254000034
I'll respect him when he learns to either spell or say his name correctly.

Fan
03-21-2005, 09:15 AM
He has pronoun confusion.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 09:17 AM
I'll respect him when he learns to either spell or say his name correctly.
Yeah, well all the cool kids don't spell their name correctly.

Roy Munson
03-21-2005, 09:18 AM
Yeah, well all the cool kids don't spell their name correctly.
My name is Roy Xzasdfosijlkajsvasl;lkjasdfoiwqeuro

its pronounced Roy Munson...

Fan
03-21-2005, 09:21 AM
My name is Roy Xzasdfosijlkajsvasl;lkjasdfoiwqeuro

its pronounced Roy Munson...
Qeuro for short ?

Cappy
03-21-2005, 09:33 AM
Congrats to coach K. He is the man

Pitpen
03-21-2005, 02:23 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0446530603.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I find the title of this piece of shit funny.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 02:27 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0446530603.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I find the title of this piece of shit funny.
There there young lad, let it go...let it go...

Pitpen
03-21-2005, 02:33 PM
There there young lad, let it go...let it go...
The funny thing is...the title could be quite literal.

Hey Look Its Chase Utley!
03-21-2005, 02:58 PM
Wooden got any player he wanted without lifting a finger. If anyone is close to that in this college basketball age, it's Mikey K...except there are several other factors that K has to deal with including better competition. You can't even make the comparison, it's not fair to either of them.
I don't know, they played some awfully good North Carolina teams back in the day with Larry Miller, Charlie Scott, Bob McAdoo. UCLA had great players, but their were other teams at the time. This guy won 7 titles in a row, 10 out of 12. If you want to talk about great players, Streets and Smiths published the 100 Greatest college basketball players of all time, Duke had 8, 7 from the Coach K era. UCLA as a whole had 7, so I guess that makes them a wash.

JRoll
03-21-2005, 03:01 PM
Let's just put it this way, by the end of his coaching career, Coach K will be the best coach of all-time.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 03:01 PM
I don't know, they played some awfully good North Carolina teams back in the day with Larry Miller, Charlie Scott, Bob McAdoo. UCLA had great players, but their were other teams at the time. This guy won 7 titles in a row, 10 out of 12. If you want to talk about great players, Streets and Smiths published the 100 Greatest college basketball players of all time, Duke had 8, 7 from the Coach K era. UCLA as a whole had 7, so I guess that makes them a wash.
If you consider the competition as a whole in college basketball the same, then you'd be correct. I do not.

domenick2x
03-21-2005, 03:07 PM
Let's just put it this way, by the end of his coaching career, Coach K will be the best coach of all-time.
What if Grant Hill come hobbling out during the next game, pulls a steel chair, and clobbers him? Puts him into a Schiavo-like coma? What then, smartass?

JRoll
03-21-2005, 03:10 PM
What if Grant Hill come hobbling out during the next game, pulls a steel chair, and clobbers him? Puts him into a Schiavo-like coma? What then, smartass?
There is a good argument that he's the best coach ever now.

asheylarry
03-21-2005, 03:14 PM
i'd also say the general is better.

domenick2x
03-21-2005, 03:15 PM
There is a good argument that he's the best coach ever now.
Then try on this scenario for size - he's found fondling a female student in his office and summarily dismissed. Some down-on-their-luck program named Valapaloosa State offers him a coaching gig, and his name brings in high-level talent for the first few years - but without the happy Duke '22 home games per year', he can't win more than 8 games per season, and ends up not even getting an NIT invite across his next 10 years of coaching.

THEN where does he rate?

asheylarry
03-21-2005, 03:15 PM
What if Grant Hill come hobbling out during the next game, pulls a steel chair, and clobbers him? Puts him into a Schiavo-like coma? What then, smartass?
schiavo is not in a coma.

domenick2x
03-21-2005, 03:16 PM
schiavo is not in a coma.
Potatoes, po-tah-toes.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 03:16 PM
i'd also say the general is better.
You also think the Big East was a better basketball conference than the ACC, you aren't the smartest cookie in the bunch.

Mmm, cookies...

asheylarry
03-21-2005, 03:18 PM
You also think the Big East was a better basketball conference than the ACC, you aren't the smartest cookie in the bunch.

Mmm, cookies...
700 wins, 3 titles, 1 undefeated season, texas fucking tech in the sweet 16. the general is better.

asheylarry
03-21-2005, 03:20 PM
Potatoes, po-tah-toes.
i wish it was that easy. unfortunately overzealous politicians and the media don't grasp the fact that there is no coming back from being brain dead.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 03:20 PM
700 wins, 3 titles, 1 undefeated season, texas fucking tech in the sweet 16. the general is better.
K has comparible numbers and is younger, where is your arguement?

domenick2x
03-21-2005, 03:23 PM
i wish it was that easy. unfortunately overzealous politicians and the media don't grasp the fact that there is no coming back from being brain dead.
That's a whole different discussion, one that prompted me to tell my wife to pull the fucking plug if I ever get in such a situation. And I wrote it down and filed it so the courts won't fuck with me.


But I personally wish I had further details, as it appears that there's a significant medical malpractice settlement involved in all this pious right-to-die vs. keep-her-alive bullshit.

asheylarry
03-21-2005, 03:23 PM
K has comparible numbers and is younger, where is your arguement?
who did he learn from?

asheylarry
03-21-2005, 03:25 PM
That's a whole different discussion, one that prompted me to tell my wife to pull the fucking plug if I ever get in such a situation. And I wrote it down and filed it so the courts won't fuck with me.


But I personally wish I had further details, as it appears that there's a significant medical malpractice settlement involved in all this pious right-to-die vs. keep-her-alive bullshit.
i always understood that the spouse has power of attorney which has me wondering why this has gone on so long. oh yeah, this is florida.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 03:25 PM
who did he learn from?
So the Teacher is always better than the student? Who did Knight learn from...?

asheylarry
03-21-2005, 03:29 PM
So the Teacher is always better than the student? Who did Knight learn from...?
no one he was self taught. a basketball idiot savant if you will. k is nothing w/o the general.

Pitpen
03-21-2005, 03:29 PM
So the Teacher is always better than the student? Who did Knight learn from...?
Me...and the circle of life is complete.

The_swami_sez
03-21-2005, 03:30 PM
Philva you said if anyone is close to being like John Wooden it is Coach K, so what are you saying now? Because it sounds like you are saying Wooden is still better than him.

Pitpen
03-21-2005, 03:30 PM
One thing I don't understand is how Roy Williams is rated as a better coach than Gary on NCAA College Basketball 2K5.


It must be all of Roy's national championships.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 03:33 PM
Philva you said if anyone is close to being like John Wooden it is Coach K, so what are you saying now? Because it sounds like you are saying Wooden is still better than him.
*Slaps Forehead, no that's not what I'm saying. I said that the two era's are not comparable, there is no comparison to what Wooden had during that time with UCLA...to which you responded if Coach K was so good he would also enjoy that...to which I replied well in this ERA if anyone is close to that it is Mikey K, but I still say the comparison cannot be made, but do so continue too if you must.

no one he was self taught. a basketball idiot savant if you will. k is nothing w/o the general.
I'm sure he would agree with you, just another reason why he is so great.

The_swami_sez
03-21-2005, 03:34 PM
Also its not just about having the best of the best, you need chemistry look at the New York Yankees they have A-Rod, Rivera, Johnson, Shuffield, Jeter, Giambi....now take a quick look at how they have done when it really matters (i.e. Boston coming back on them, Angels sweeping them, Marlins outplaying them to win the Series)

Sit Down Bitch

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 03:37 PM
Also its not just about having the best of the best, you need chemistry look at the New York Yankees they have A-Rod, Rivera, Johnson, Shuffield, Jeter, Giambi....now take a quick look at how they have done when it really matters (i.e. Boston coming back on them, Angels sweeping them, Marlins outplaying them to win the Series)

Sit Down Bitch
Except for the fact that I'd say a Red Sox / Yankees comparison as far as talent level there isn't much of a difference, so what exactly you're trying to prove is obviously flying over my head.

And I am sitting down.

The_swami_sez
03-21-2005, 03:41 PM
What I am saying is that talent isnt everything, YOU said "Wooden got any player he wanted without lifting a finger."

If there is no chemistry the team will not succeed to the end. You can not say Wooden won because he had the best players, he must have done something else like chemistry for them to win as much as they did

Stay seated

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 03:43 PM
What I am saying is that talent isnt everything, YOU said "Wooden got any player he wanted without lifting a finger."

If there is no chemistry the team will not succeed to the end. You can not say Wooden won because he had the best players, he must have done something else like chemistry for them to win as much as they did

Stay seated
I'm not claiming that he was a horrible coach by any means, I'm just saying it's not fair to either of them to compare considering they coached in two very different eras, I'm not even sure what your point is anymore.

I am now standing.

asheylarry
03-21-2005, 03:43 PM
I'm sure he would agree with you, just another reason why he is so great.
as long as you agree.

The_swami_sez
03-21-2005, 04:03 PM
I'm not claiming that he was a horrible coach by any means, I'm just saying it's not fair to either of them to compare considering they coached in two very different eras, I'm not even sure what your point is anymore.

I am now standing.
I never said anything about u saying he was a horrible coach, in fact horrible coach was never mentioned.

What Im saying is you cant blame Wooden and say he is not the best because everyone wanted to play for him, you cant win with just talent you need chemistry too

The_swami_sez
03-21-2005, 04:08 PM
Of course you are also a Duke fan, and everyone knows Dukies think they are the best.

Well I got news for you, YOU AREN'T

JRoll
03-21-2005, 04:09 PM
Of course you are also a Duke fan, and everyone knows Dukies think they are the best.

Well I got news for you, YOU AREN'T
But...I'm a Maryland fan and I admit that Coach K is one of the best of all time.

Pitpen
03-21-2005, 04:12 PM
But...I'm a Maryland fan and I admit that Coach K is one of the best of all time.
Yet another reason why you're not a true Maryland fan.

domenick2x
03-21-2005, 04:12 PM
But...I'm a Maryland fan and I admit that Coach K is one of the best of all time.Survey says....

http://re2.mm-c.yimg.com/image/469268823 (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062857/K=red+x/v=2/SID=e/TID=I012_76/l=II/R=1/SS=p/OID=977eecaf1906dc32/SIG=1fpbq7kt9/EXP=1111529536/*-http%3A//images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dred%2Bx%26fr%3DFP-tab-img-t-218%26toggle%3D1%26ei%3DUTF-8&h=593&w=590&imgcurl=www.jamesnares.com%2Fimages%2FRed-x.jpg&imgurl=www.jamesnares.com%2Fimages%2FRed-x.jpg&size=100.4kB&name=Red-x.jpg&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jamesnares.com%2FPaintings%2520pages%2Fred_x.htm&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jamesnares.com%2FPaintings%2520pages%2Fred_x.htm&p=red+x&type=jpeg&no=1&tt=200,348)

Even the monkey knows better.

JRoll
03-21-2005, 04:12 PM
Yet another reason why you're not a true Maryland fan.
Why? Because I'm not a blind homer?

Pitpen
03-21-2005, 04:13 PM
Why? Because I'm not a blind homer?
No. Although, that is part of it.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 05:29 PM
Damnit, didn't I post this on the Duke board?

JRoll
03-21-2005, 05:31 PM
Damnit, didn't I post this on the Duke board?
You want me to move it there?

Pitpen
03-21-2005, 05:31 PM
Damnit, didn't I post this on the Duke board?
JRoll wouldn't have been able to move it if you did.

No one else would care enough to move it.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 05:32 PM
You want me to move it there?
Yes, I will not have you loom over this thread like it's your imaginary Girlfriend you always mention.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 05:33 PM
JRoll wouldn't have been able to move it if you did.

No one else would care enough to move it.
Damn, well then...I'm a dumbass.

Pitpen
03-21-2005, 05:33 PM
Damn, well then...I'm a dumbass.
So I've been told.

JRoll
03-21-2005, 05:33 PM
Yes, I will not have you loom over this thread like it's your imaginary Girlfriend you always mention.
Moved with a redirect on the ACC board still.

PhilaVa
03-21-2005, 05:34 PM
Moved with a redirect on the ACC board still.
I'm going to redirect my hand into your face if you don't get rid of that redirect.

JRoll
03-21-2005, 05:36 PM
I'm going to redirect my hand into your face if you don't get rid of that redirect.
I have no mod power over the thread anymore.

Pitpen
03-21-2005, 05:38 PM
I have no mod power over the thread anymore.I still have imaginary mod power over this thread, just in case anyone was wondering.