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Domino427
09-20-2004, 02:29 PM
QB: McNabb, Culpepper, Manning, McNair, Brady
RB: Tomlinson, Holmes, Alexander, Green, McAllister
WR: Moss, Harrison, Holt, Owens, Ward
TE: Gonzalez, Heap, Crumpler, Jones, McMichael
DL: Rice, Ogunleye, Taylor, Peppers, Freeney
LB: Urlacher, Lewis, Thomas, Spikes, Brooking
CB: Bailey, Thomas, McAllister, Rolle, Barber
S: Dawkins, Brown, Reed, Archuleta, Harrison
K: Vanderjagt, Akers, Wilkins, Vinatieri, Elam

Who do you guys think? (I can't believe this took me as long as it did!)

Calm
09-20-2004, 02:39 PM
CB: Bailey, Thomas, McAllister, Rolle, Barber


Thomas? I can't for the life of me figure out who you mean here. :o

LuvdaFan36
09-20-2004, 02:43 PM
QB: McNabb, Culpepper, Manning, McNair, Brady
RB: Tomlinson, Holmes, Alexander, Green, McAllister
WR: Moss, Harrison, Holt, Owens, Ward
TE: Gonzalez, Heap, Crumpler, Jones, McMichael
DL: Rice, Ogunleye, Taylor, Peppers, Freeney
LB: Urlacher, Lewis, Thomas, Spikes, Brooking
CB: Bailey, Thomas, McAllister, Rolle, Barber
S: Dawkins, Brown, Reed, Archuleta, Harrison
K: Vanderjagt, Akers, Wilkins, Vinatieri, Elam

Who do you guys think? (I can't believe this took me as long as it did!)



Not to be a homer but i think Favre is better then McNair and DC. I also think you should include the 2nd most accurate kicker in NFL history and toss Longwell up there.

manny
09-20-2004, 02:44 PM
did you see Favre yesterday? not a pretty picture from the highlights I saw of the game.

manny
09-20-2004, 02:45 PM
of course, I still wish the Falcons would have stuck with Mr Favre over Chris Miller.

LuvdaFan36
09-20-2004, 02:50 PM
did you see Favre yesterday? not a pretty picture from the highlights I saw of the game.


Yeah i saw him, ive been watching him do that for over a decade now, its no surprise to me, but he's given me more good times then bad and ill thank for turning my franchise around.

manny
09-20-2004, 02:57 PM
Favre is a good QB, but he's not the QB he used to be. Before Vick though, I would have taken him back in a heartbeat.

LuvdaFan36
09-20-2004, 03:03 PM
Favre is a good QB, but he's not the QB he used to be. Before Vick though, I would have taken him back in a heartbeat.



Your right, he's not but he can still make plays when he needs to. Vick is a great athelete but an average QB.

manny
09-20-2004, 03:11 PM
that average QB is still the one that went into Green Bay and sent the Pack packing. The one and only.

LuvdaFan36
09-20-2004, 03:22 PM
that average QB is still the one that went into Green Bay and sent the Pack packing. The one and only.



Big deal! How far did it take him to the SB? What about the next year? If one game makes a QB then Trent Dilfer is one of the greatest of all time! Up there with Brad Johnson and Len Dawson.

manny
09-20-2004, 04:02 PM
he won 3 out of 4 the next year, and the first two this year. We'll see how history shines on Vick's career.

LuvdaFan36
09-20-2004, 04:05 PM
Dont get me wrong, Vick has the tools to be a good QB but until he learns to use them he puts himself in harms way. He needs to learn to be patient, he needs to learn how to read a D and most of all he needs to learn on when to pass and when to run. I think he's to quick to resort to running. But like i said a couple games wont make a career

Domino427
09-20-2004, 06:51 PM
-All this talk about Vick is exactly why he didn't make my top 5. Excellent player, but not developed enough as a QB. Last week was a perfect example. 100+ yards rushing, but under 200 passing.

-Thomas is Fred Thomas from New Orleans. Look at his INT/PD stats from the past 2 or 3 seasons. He's pretty good. Had a bit of trouble w/some of the defense. Kind of a few brain-farts because I was trying to do it fast.

-Farve would maybe be #1 on my list about 3 years ago. But he has aged a bit, and his stats aren't quite what they used to be. Part of that may be because of his recievers. He used to love having Freeman to dump the ball off to. McNair is a natural leader and almost always throws for over 250 yards. And he's never had a stellar receiving group. Culpepper is said to be at his best ever. He's reading defenses better and the fact that he (like McNabb and McNair) are also a threat to take off put them up top. Not to mention the way they make smart decisions and just simply know how to carry a team to a victory.

Calm
09-21-2004, 07:15 AM
-Thomas is Fred Thomas from New Orleans. Look at his INT/PD stats from the past 2 or 3 seasons. He's pretty good. Had a bit of trouble w/some of the defense. Kind of a few brain-farts because I was trying to do it fast.
I know I'm a little biased, but I can't believe you would include him ahead of Patrick Surtain. That is of course if you are looking at cover corners. Then again, I'm not sure Barber fit the cover corner mold either, put I would probably include him.


Not only is Surtain 3 years younger than Thomas, but he has been putting up better INT numbers and similar PD numbers for the last 4 years while Thomas has done it for the past 2.

Overall though, pretty good list.

Domino427
09-21-2004, 02:16 PM
yea, like i said, this was compiled fairly quickly, with only lookin at stats from 2002 and 2003. There's less talk about DBs and all that WR/RB/QB...so even though I know some of the good players...most past like Bailey and McAllister are gonna be the ones that I know less about. I had actually even forgot about McAllister for a moment until I saw his name on the stat sheets.

Bump
09-21-2004, 04:57 PM
is that list based on THIS season, LAST season, or just overall rep?

cause if it's THIS season, many would not be on there since there are a lot of injuries and slow starts. If we are going by LAST year, then just look at last years numbers. If just going on overall rep, then that's subjective

Bump
09-21-2004, 04:58 PM
looks like you were answering my question as i was typing it

cardsfanboy
09-21-2004, 05:52 PM
the only Ram to make that list was Wilkins???? interesting. I imagine that some people would have included either bruce or holt. Of course they would be better if they had a good quarterback instead of Bulger passing to them.

cardsfanboy
09-21-2004, 06:00 PM
crap, somehow I missed that holt was on the list. (I still prefer bruce, he's always open, but bulger has a holt fetish)

Domino427
09-21-2004, 09:48 PM
LoL. But Holt is given the slight nod because he's got an edge in stuff like jumping, speed, etc., mostly just because he's younger. It's the flashiness I guess. I agree though that Bruce is an awesome WR, and is vastly underrated. I guess his name, Issac Bruce, just makes him sound old and all. LoL. But seriously a great WR.

KingCole
09-25-2004, 01:54 AM
when you ask top top at each position I think you have go today right now! not 2002 or 2003 or reputation or over thier career.