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sully
02-18-2005, 12:28 PM
All right, let's give this a try and see how it goes. The compensatory selections haven't been distributed yet, so for now, we'll do without them. When you make your pick, list the player and give a brief explanation as to why you're picking them.

Obvious rule - No picking someone already selected
Obvious rule - No trading of picks
Not so obvious rule - No making consecutive selections. You must wait until at least one person has picked before making your selection


I'll update the first post as often as I can. Also, I'm having trouble finding a site that has all the picks for all 7 rounds listed, but I know THR has it. If you have a subscription there, could you get that list to me posthaste? Thanks.

Round 1:
1] 49ers - QB Aaron Rodgers, California
2] Dolphins - RB Cedric Benson, Texas
3] Browns - DE Dan Cody, Oklahoma
4] Bears - WR Mike Williams, USC
5] Buccaneers - RB Ronnie Brown, Auburn
6] Titans - CB Antrel Rolle, Miami (FL)
7] Vikings - LB Derrick Johnson, Texas
8] Cardinals - QB Alex Smith, Utah
9] Redskins - WR Braylon Edwards, Michigan
10] Lions - DE Marcus Spears, LSU
11] Cowboys - CB Pac-Man Jones, West Virginia
12] Chargers - OLB Shawne Merriman, Maryland
13] Texans - OT Alex Barron, Florida St.
14] Panthers - WR Troy Williamson, South Carolina
15] Chiefs - DE Erasmus James, Wisconsin
16] Saints - LB Thomas Davis, Georgia
17] Bengals - DT Travis Johnson, Florida St.
18] Vikings - RB Cadillac Williams, Auburn
19] Rams - DE David Pollack, Georgia
20] Cowboys - DT Shaun Cody, USC
21] Jaguars - WR Mark Clayton, Oklahoma
22] Ravens - OT Jammal Brown, Oklahoma
23] Seahawks - DE Matt Roth, Iowa
24] Packers - DT Anttaj Hawthorne, Wisconsin
25] Broncos - MLB Channing Crowder, Florida
26] Jets - CB Carlos Rogers, Auburn
27] Falcons - WR Roddy White, UAB
28] Chargers - WR Chris Henry, West Virginia
29] Colts - CB Justin Miller, Clemson
30] Steelers - CB Corey Webster, LSU
31] Eagles - OG Elton Brown, Virginia
32] Patriots - CB Marlin Jackson, Michigan

Boik14 is the shiz
02-18-2005, 12:36 PM
What about trading players to get more picks?

Ex. Patrick Surtain is on the trade block in real life.

Enyalois
02-18-2005, 12:37 PM
All I know is Timmy Chang should be going #1.

sully
02-18-2005, 01:25 PM
What about trading players to get more picks?

Ex. Patrick Surtain is on the trade block in real life.
Nope. This is strictly making picks. No trading involved for this game.

Pitpen
02-18-2005, 01:29 PM
All I know is Timmy Chang should be going #1.
He should also be the highest paid player in the league.

superpack84
02-18-2005, 06:26 PM
they list all the picks here at http://draftcrazy.com/


just look for draft order on the top part of the page.

Plummer29
02-19-2005, 01:59 AM
sully..are you wanting the 49ers to pick right now??

navyman882001
02-19-2005, 03:39 PM
hey sully..since the Seahawks have virtually TAGGED Shaun Alexander....we're proposing a trade with Miami for the #2 pick(1st rd and they're 2nd rd pick) ......










my mind is running on all cylinders!!!!!!!

Pitpen
02-19-2005, 03:40 PM
hey sully..since the Seahawks have virtually TAGGED Shaun Alexander....we're proposing a trade with Miami for the #2 pick(1st rd and they're 2nd rd pick) ......
You mean the one the Eagles have?

Boik14 is the shiz
02-19-2005, 04:30 PM
Nope. This is strictly making picks. No trading involved for this game.Um, but dont you think its kinda strange when trades are inevitable during the draft and in the case of some players?

Boik14 is the shiz
02-19-2005, 04:33 PM
And just out of curiousity, why wasnt that stated earlier. Kinda takes alot of the fun out of it imo. I was looking foward to that aspect.

sully
02-19-2005, 04:43 PM
And just out of curiousity, why wasnt that stated earlier. Kinda takes alot of the fun out of it imo. I was looking foward to that aspect.
This isn't the LMD for those wondering.

This is just make a pick for a team. Since the one picking for the Jaguars in round 1 might not be picking for them in round 2, there is absolutely no point in allowing trades.

You just make a pick for a team even if you're not a fan of them and move on.

Boik14 is the shiz
02-19-2005, 05:02 PM
This isn't the LMD for those wondering.

This is just make a pick for a team. Since the one picking for the Jaguars in round 1 might not be picking for them in round 2, there is absolutely no point in allowing trades.

You just make a pick for a team even if you're not a fan of them and move on.Ok, got cha. I was about to say :confused:

So there will be trades allowed in the LMD then?

navyman882001
02-20-2005, 10:35 AM
Ok, got cha. I was about to say :confused:

So there will be trades allowed in the LMD then?AHHH.... i gotcha..then nevermind on my reply i sent you then

trizzle44
02-20-2005, 02:12 PM
I may be out of the loop but where do we find out when the draft is, and who has traded for what pick and all the little details we need for the picks, and since the Titans are releasing half our team tomorrow, see Samari Rolle, Derrick Mason, and Kevin Carter I may be in a deep depresion for the next few weeks.AHHH.... i gotcha..then nevermind on my reply i sent you then

sully
02-24-2005, 11:50 AM
Ok, got cha. I was about to say :confused:

So there will be trades allowed in the LMD then?
Yep. If you go to the LMD forum, I think you already saw the rules.

sully
02-24-2005, 11:53 AM
Well, if nobody else is going, then I'm going to pick for the 49ers.

1] 49ers - QB Aaron Rodgers, California - While the 49ers may be content with Rattay, if they stay at #1, I don't think they'll pass up the chance to take the best rated QB in the draft.

SuperGonzo
02-24-2005, 12:29 PM
2) Miami - Cedric Benson, RB, Texas

-Hey, look. . .a running back with dreadlocks from the University of Texas going to the Dolphins. What could POSSIBLY go wrong? :)

Seriously, Benson would be a great fit for the Dolphins. They have absolutely zero running game, and Benson is the cream of this year's RB crop.

MadNova
02-24-2005, 12:35 PM
Well, if nobody else is going, then I'm going to pick for the 49ers.

1] 49ers - QB Aaron Rodgers, California - While the 49ers may be content with Rattay, if they stay at #1, I don't think they'll pass up the chance to take the best rated QB in the draft.

I thought the 49ers already went with Timmy Chang?

MadNova
02-24-2005, 12:42 PM
Oh, and with pick #3, the first real surprise of the draft:


The Cleveland Browns select DE/LB Dan Cody of Oklahoma

The Patriot Philosophy, and Crennel's love for the defensive side of the ball, come into play here. The Browns have long struggled in generating a pass rush, and their head coach's prefered style of D is the 3-4. This leads to the Browns taking a relentless pass rusher from Oklahoma and turning him into their version of Willie McGinest.

sully
02-24-2005, 03:10 PM
And now the Bears are up. I think I'm going to be murdered by the Bears fans if I don't make this selection:

4] Bears - Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan - There's absolutely no way the Bears can go wrong with a Michigan receiver in the first round. Edwards could be the missing piece to the puzzle in the Bears passing attack.




...Gotcha!

4] Bears - WR Mike Williams, USC - I have to believe he's at the top of the Bears' draft board, and plays a position the Bears desperately need.

Cyric
02-24-2005, 03:54 PM
#5 - Tampa Bay selects Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn. Fits perfectly in Gruden's WCO, can catch and run, has better upside than his teammate Cadillac Williams, and has the added advantage of not being named 'Michael Pittman'.

Plummer29
02-24-2005, 04:21 PM
#6: Titans choose CB Antrell Rolle, Miami

With the cutting of his brother Samari, and the possible departure of Andre Dyson due to free agency, this pick makes much sense to the rebuilding Titans.

sully
02-24-2005, 05:13 PM
I suppose it's only fitting I pick for the Vikings

7] Vikings - LB Derrick Johnson, Texas - As usual, the Vikings are in need of defensive help, and linebacker is the most inept of the positions. The acquisition of Napoleon Harris helps a bit, and with the uncertainty regarding Chris Claiborne's return, this is probably the best move, not to mention Johnson might be the top prospect in the draft.

Cyric
02-24-2005, 06:10 PM
#8 - Cardinals: Alex Smith, QB, Utah

You could make an argument for Cadillac Williams here, but I think Denny Green has realized that he needs a QB, and desperately. When your franchise's last legit QB was Jake Plummer (ugh), and you've been looking for an above-average signal caller since Neil Lomax called it quits, well ... it's a no-brainer.

Cyric
02-24-2005, 06:12 PM
I suppose it's only fitting I pick for the Vikings

7] Vikings - LB Derrick Johnson, Texas - As usual, the Vikings are in need of defensive help, and linebacker is the most inept of the positions. The acquisition of Napoleon Harris helps a bit, and with the uncertainty regarding Chris Claiborne's return, this is probably the best move, not to mention Johnson might be the top prospect in the draft.
Interesting that you didn't go for Pac-Man Jones there.

sully
02-24-2005, 07:32 PM
I thought about going for Pac-Man, but I'm really high on Derrick Johnson. Besides, I think Johnson would have more of an impact on the Vikings now than Pac-Man would.

SuperGonzo
02-24-2005, 07:33 PM
9) Washington Redskins - Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan

They're dumping Lav Coles, and Rod Gardner isn't much of what you'd call a receiving threat. Oh, and Washington's offense sucks balls. That's why Edwards is the pick here. :)

Ghostrider
02-24-2005, 08:02 PM
All right, let's give this a try and see how it goes. The compensatory selections haven't been distributed yet, so for now, we'll do without them. When you make your pick, list the player and give a brief explanation as to why you're picking them.

Obvious rule - No picking someone already selected
Obvious rule - No trading of picks
Not so obvious rule - No making consecutive selections. You must wait until at least one person has picked before making your selection


I'll update the first post as often as I can. Also, I'm having trouble finding a site that has all the picks for all 7 rounds listed, but I know THR has it. If you have a subscription there, could you get that list to me posthaste? Thanks.

Hope this helps. It does not have the minnesota/oakland trade.
http://www.draftnotebook.com/drafting_order.htm

sully
02-25-2005, 09:11 AM
The Lions are up, and I'm somewhat surprised their pick hasn't been submitted yet.

MadNova
02-25-2005, 09:12 AM
The Lions are up, and I'm somewhat surprised their pick hasn't been submitted yet.
Seems like a good time for Nugent to go....

sully
02-25-2005, 09:13 AM
Seems like a good time for Nugent to go....
There goes my plan to draft Timmy Chang for them.

MadNova
02-25-2005, 09:15 AM
There goes my plan to draft Timmy Chang for them.
I was going to go with Chang, but I thought that was too obvious. My next thought was that punter from Tennessee, but I couldn't remember his name.

sully
02-25-2005, 09:17 AM
I was going to go with Chang, but I thought that was too obvious. My next thought was that punter from Tennessee, but I couldn't remember his name.
Dustin Colquitt

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerphotos/p/dustincolquitt.jpg

MadNova
02-25-2005, 09:23 AM
Dustin Colquitt

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerphotos/p/dustincolquitt.jpg
Yeah..that guy. He'd be a perfect fit.

sully
02-25-2005, 09:25 AM
Yeah..that guy. He'd be a perfect fit.
Yeah, he's definitely got the "I'd get carded if I tried to get into an R rated movie alone" look.

Morgasm
02-25-2005, 09:42 AM
#10- Detroit Lions select Marcus Spears, DE LSU. Lions' go the safe route with this pick, not taking chances on E. James after having endured the first 2 seasons of the Charles Rogers' experiment.

Cyric
02-25-2005, 01:58 PM
#11 - Dallas selects CB Adam "Pac-Man" Jones. They might have preferred one of the big-time DEs here, but that would have been before Jones slipped right to them. I don't think they can turn away a potential #1 corner, especially after last year's defensive collapse.

DetroitSportsCity
02-25-2005, 10:20 PM
Chargers #12- Shawn Merriman OLB

Ghostrider
02-25-2005, 10:38 PM
#13 Houston Texans select OT Alex Barron, Florida ST.

This pick will make Carr jump for joy after being sacked a league leading 49 times last year.

PaytonPaw
02-25-2005, 11:16 PM
14. Carolina Panthers select Troy Williamson, WR South Carolina

After finally getting over Barron being chosen one pick before them, tackle is their biggest need after all, Carolina looks to fill the void left by the departure of Moose.

Ghostrider
02-26-2005, 05:11 PM
#15 Kansas City Cheifs select DE Erasmus James, Wisconsin

The defense has holes everywhere so just about anyone would help. James has a big upside if he can stay healthy and will make an imediate impact on a bad defense.

PaytonPaw
02-26-2005, 06:44 PM
16. New Orleans Saints Thomas Davis, LB Georgia
The whole defense could use an overhall, however LB and CB stand out as the biggest needs. Davis is the best left from these two positions, though a close call with Carlos Rodgers, so the Saints go with him.

Cyric
02-28-2005, 12:16 PM
17. Bengals select DT Travis Johnson, Florida State. Cincy needs help in the middle of the line, and Johnson is the clear-cut top choice at that position. A solid DT lets them cut Justin Smith loose even more on the opposing QB and should have a ripple effect on the rest of the D.

sully
02-28-2005, 12:42 PM
I'm somewhat surprised he's still available at this point. I'll preface this by saying if this were to happen, I imagine the Vikings would trade down in this scenario. However, since we aren't doing trades:

18] Vikings - RB Cadillac Williams, Auburn - The Vikings are becoming more of a running team, and they could use a player that can turn into a true #1 back. Right now, they don't really have that with the running back by committee they have. With this pick, they could then trade one or two of their current backs (Bennett/Onterrio, most likely) for more picks or players.

Cyric
02-28-2005, 06:45 PM
19. Rams - DE David Pollack, Georgia - The team needs help everywhere on defense, where FA defections and declining play have left many openings. The best value is probably in Pollack to become the pass-rusher they've needed since Wistrom bolted to Seattle.

naca72
02-28-2005, 06:54 PM
With #20 the Dallas Cowboys select Shaun Cody DT/DE USC

-They need help both inside and outside on the D-Line. Marcelus (Sp?) Wiley being a turd in FA didn't help their problems any. Could go DB here, but Cody tore it up at the Combine.

gbpman
02-28-2005, 08:31 PM
is anyone allowed to make a pick in this one or is there a person picked for each team in this draft?

Plummer29
02-28-2005, 09:43 PM
for this little game anyone can pick for any team

Plummer29
02-28-2005, 09:51 PM
#21 Jacksonville Jaguars- WR Mark Clayton, Oklahoma

I love Clayton! He is sooo good after the catch, i havn't seen anything like it.
I have to draft him for my 3rd fav team. With Leftwich throwing to him, Jimmy Smith, and Reggie Williams i see their passing game exploding this year.

naca72
03-01-2005, 09:49 AM
With the #22 pick the Baltimore Ravens select Jammal Brown OT Oklahoma

-The right side of the Baltimore O-Line has been mediocre at best since the Super Bowl season. Brown is a Left Tackle playing on the right side. He will help the passing game as much as a solid WR could. Boller will have more than a second and a half to throw the ball. Let's see if he can play.

Cyric
03-01-2005, 05:13 PM
#23 - Seattle Seahawks select DE Matt Roth, Iowa

This is a tricky pick, because I think Seattle would have jumped all over Mark Clayton if he happened to be here, but the next best WR - Roddy White - is a stretch at #23. I think Roth is the better value, filling a need for a team that got absolutely nothing out of Grant Wistrom.

superpack84
03-01-2005, 06:24 PM
hold the 24th pick for gbpman.

gbpman
03-01-2005, 06:55 PM
#24 Green Bay Packers- Antij Hawthorne DT-Wisconsin


Packers need help all over on defense. Hunt has never lived up to his big contract and unless he shows bates something this year it will be his last in GB. Also Jackson is in the last year of his contract. Adding Hawthorne will help this DL and add some depth to it.

Cyric
03-02-2005, 07:00 PM
(This may or may not have anything to do with how I'll select in the LMD.)

#25 - Denver Broncos - MLB Channing Crowder, Florida

The Broncos are shifting to a 3-4 alignment and looking for players that better fit that scheme. With the run on DEs in this mock, there don't appear to be solid run-stuffing DEs at this spot (which is a primary need), so Denver goes the other direction and gets one of the youngest and most talented players in the draft to fill the extra ILB spot alongside Al Wilson.

naca72
03-02-2005, 08:58 PM
With #26 the NY Jets select Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn.

-They badly needed someone to step in and play LAST season when they narrowly missed out on Antoine Winfield. Rogers is an experienced DB and can push for playing time right now. They could go with Heath Miller here at TE, but good CBs are too important in today's game to pass on one as talented as Rogers this late in the 1st.

SuperGonzo
03-04-2005, 09:24 AM
With the 27th pick, the Atlanta Falcons select:

Roddy White, WR, Alabama-Birmingham

They need another WR threat for Michael Vick to go to and to open up the middle of the field for Alge Crumpler. If Peerless Price would stop doing his Alvin Harper impression, they could probably go somewhere else, but the Falcons are probably going WR with this pick. White's the best one still left on our board, IMO.

mschmidt64
03-04-2005, 02:25 PM
Whoever did the picking for the Cowboys here should be fucking shot, and fucking ashamed of themselves.

gbpman
03-04-2005, 05:43 PM
With the 28th Pick the Chargers select WR Chris Henry from West Virginia


They have noting at WR besides gates and can use Henry.

superpack84
03-06-2005, 08:44 PM
With the 29th pick the Indianapolis Colts select Clemson CB Justin Miller.


Colts defense give up alot of yards in the passing game they could use some help at CB.

fullxtension
03-07-2005, 11:22 AM
With the 30th pick, the Steelers take Corey Webster from LSU...despite his injury, this talent is just too good to pass up. Those long arms will be batting down passes for years to come in the steel city.

fullxtension
03-07-2005, 12:24 PM
No one wants to pick for the Eagles? Zoinks Scoob....

navyman882001
03-07-2005, 09:39 PM
at #32....the Patriots select CB Marlin Jackson--Michigan

since Law is now a FA, time to bring in a guy who has good size(6-1), and good speed(4.40)

i would say they might draft LB, since the status of Bruschi's health is uncertain...however, they are deep at LB..so CB would be a smarter choice to go with!!!!

sully
03-07-2005, 09:41 PM
Whoever did the picking for the Cowboys here should be fucking shot, and fucking ashamed of themselves.
It's a good thing we're not making personal attacks here.

Pitpen
03-07-2005, 09:41 PM
It's hard to say where the Eagles will go with their first pick. I would imagine it's a trade up, though. Over the last 5 years, some of their draft picks have been extremely surprising, but have worked out well. I'm really not sure what they'll do.

fullxtension
03-08-2005, 10:04 AM
Oh good grief...no Eagles pick yet? I can't make the pick, but here's some help..the Eagles D-Line was full of injuries last year. there is a great need for depth there....particularly against the run. Trotter has no real backup of any consequence. He is THE reason they could stop the run in the latter portion of the season. There is also a need for RB. Westbrook needs a backup that can give him a rest now and then. Plus if this position goes down, the Eagles are in trouble. I would look for them to find more than one RB if not by draft, by FA or trade. CB is also a little light.

1. Defensive Line - a multitude of injuries may have made the Eagles d-line trouble seem worse than they are.
2. Inside Linebacker – Trotter stepped up and got it done in 2004, Simoneau couldn't stop the run. The Eagles cut Nate Wayne.
3. Cornerbacks – both new CBs had good seasons in 2005, but it is a position they could improve.
4. Running Back – back up for Westbrook. Keep him fresh.

http://www.thehogs.net/Draft/teams/NFC_East.html#phi

Now can someone pick for the Eagles?

sully
03-08-2005, 10:06 AM
We have plenty of Eagles fans here, supposedly. Perhaps one of them could make the pick?

Pitpen
03-08-2005, 10:23 AM
Oh good grief...no Eagles pick yet? I can't make the pick, but here's some help..the Eagles D-Line was full of injuries last year. there is a great need for depth there....particularly against the run. Trotter has no real backup of any consequence. He is THE reason they could stop the run in the latter portion of the season. There is also a need for RB. Westbrook needs a backup that can give him a rest now and then. Plus if this position goes down, the Eagles are in trouble. I would look for them to find more than one RB if not by draft, by FA or trade. CB is also a little light.

1. Defensive Line - a multitude of injuries may have made the Eagles d-line trouble seem worse than they are.
2. Inside Linebacker – Trotter stepped up and got it done in 2004, Simoneau couldn't stop the run. The Eagles cut Nate Wayne.
3. Cornerbacks – both new CBs had good seasons in 2005, but it is a position they could improve.
4. Running Back – back up for Westbrook. Keep him fresh.

http://www.thehogs.net/Draft/teams/NFC_East.html#phi

Now can someone pick for the Eagles?The Eagles had went 10 deep on the line last year. They only had 3 significant injuries. Each of about a month's time (not including Kalu). Depth was never a problem along the line.

I don't understand what Wayne has to do with the middle linebacker spot.

Brown and Sheppard had great seasons in 2005. Hood looks like a good nickelback and they drafted two players last year, who could develop. Ware and Wynn both saw a good deal of action in the Super Bowl and didn't play that bad.

They already have a backup for Westbrook. A running back will be drafted, but not in the first round.

I expect a trade up to get one of the top 2 offensive tackles. That's as specific as I'll go.

fullxtension
03-08-2005, 10:35 AM
The Eagles had went 10 deep on the line last year. They only had 3 significant injuries. Each of about a month's time (not including Kalu). Depth was never a problem along the line.

I don't understand what Wayne has to do with the middle linebacker spot.

Brown and Sheppard had great seasons in 2005. Hood looks like a good nickelback and they drafted two players last year, who could develop. Ware and Wynn both saw a good deal of action in the Super Bowl and didn't play that bad.

They already have a backup for Westbrook. A running back will be drafted, but not in the first round.

I expect a trade up to get one of the top 2 offensive tackles. That's as specific as I'll go.
Depth at lineback remains an issue for the Eagles. Their roster only shows 5 LBs and no backups in the middle. But nevermind that for a moment. Consider this:

After losing Staley to the Steelers and Buckhalter to injury the Eagles were left to rely on Brian Westbrook and bringing Levens back after cutting him. Adding depth, perhaps with the franchise RB of the future would make a lot of sense. Defensively, they need much better production from their linebackers and along the line to compliment The Freak. Their other acquisitions in the off-season of Hugh Douglas and Dhani Jones have done little to improve a questionable run defense that will need to be addressed again.

http://www.draftboardinsider.com/players/needs_NFC.html

All that said....can someone please pick for the Eagles?

sully
03-08-2005, 10:44 AM
31] Eagles - OG Elton Brown, Virginia - Nobody else wanted to pick for the Eagles, so I'm choosing for them.