Number 1 fantasy pick

[sportznut]

I know who I'd take, who would you take?

Beltran, Pujols, A-Rod, or someone else?

[Spuds]

Arod...unless Vlad is running again.

[HamelsToe]

Arod...unless Vlad is running again.
I'd prob take Pujols or Abreu.

Most likely Abreu tho, he is a fantasy ANIMAL

[sportznut]

I'd prob take Pujols or Abreu.

Most likely Abreu tho, he is a fantasy ANIMAL
Abreu is an excellent player, but Vlad, Pujols, Beltran, and A-Rod (at least) all rank higher than him.

And I think Vlad's running days are behind him sadly.

[Pitpen]

Tejada...bitches.

[sportznut]

Tejada...bitches.
Soriano is up there too, but not number 1.

[Pitpen]

Soriano is up there too, but not number 1.
Tejada led the league in RBIs, had a good average, over 30 home runs, a ton of hits and a decent amount of steals. He gets more protection in the lineup this year and he could easily repeat those numbers.

[Slobfather]

Thats easy. It has to be Albert.

But I'm sure you knew I was going to say that huh?

[The Greatest Poster Alive]

Id Take A-rod first.... He is money...and protected by an amazing line-up...Lots, and Lots of RBI opportunities....


First pitcher taken would be Randy Johnson ...i just can't see him losing many games w/ the yankee line-up.... followed by Johan

[sportznut]

Tejada led the league in RBIs, had a good average, over 30 home runs, a ton of hits and a decent amount of steals. He gets more protection in the lineup this year and he could easily repeat those numbers.
Yes I know what Tejada can do, but he's not a number 1 IMO.

Absolutely number 1 SS and probably top 5 pick. Definitely top 10.

[sportznut]

I still believe that Pujols and A-Rod are running 1-2 like they have pretty much since Albert came into the league (except that first year of course).

After that gets a little murky, but it's hard to go wrong with any of the names mentioned.

[Slobfather]

I still believe that Pujols and A-Rod are running 1-2 like they have pretty much since Albert came into the league (except that first year of course).

After that gets a little murky, but it's hard to go wrong with any of the names mentioned.
ya, the top 2 picks in every draft should be those 2 guys. After that, there are 5 or 6 guys that could be mentioned as #3. Tejada certainly, and Helton of course, plus the others you mentioned.

[The Greatest Poster Alive]

ya, the top 2 picks in every draft should be those 2 guys. After that, there are 5 or 6 guys that could be mentioned as #3. Tejada certainly, and Helton of course, plus the others you mentioned.
I have a hunch here, Randy Johnson could merit a top 5 pick this year.... I mean, he is a damn good pitcher... in ARIZONA... w/ the support of an allstar offense... just think what his record could be.... (20+ wins easy IMO)


but really, him being a pitcher probally drops him down to 7 or 8

[John3714]

Maybe I'm biased because he's on my fantasy team, but I have to go with Beltran. Sure, his average dropped quite a bit, but he's still a real threat for 30-30 and a possible threat for 40-40. I expect his average to raise a little this year too.

[sportznut]

Maybe I'm biased because he's on my fantasy team, but I have to go with Beltran. Sure, his average dropped quite a bit, but he's still a real threat for 30-30 and a possible threat for 40-40. I expect his average to raise a little this year too.
Beltran will be picked number 1 in some leagues, but the format would make my decision up.

I'd have to go with Pujols, A-Rod, or my favorite, Vlad.

[John3714]

Beltran will be picked number 1 in some leagues, but the format would make my decision up.

I'd have to go with Pujols, A-Rod, or my favorite, Vlad.
If A-Rod were still a shortstop, he would be a number 1 pick without question. But as a third baseman, I feel there are a lot of guys that can almost equal his fantasy output. So with the number 1 pick I would go with a position of little depth first, then take one of the mid-level third baseman later.

Ditto with Pujols. There's too many first baseman that can do the things he can do. Maybe not as good as Pujols, but still.

Vlad is certainly a quality number 1. He's like Beltran. He gets you good average (well, not Beltran last year, but historically), homers, RBI's, and steals. And both have good k/bb ratios. I don't think you can go wrong with either at number 1.

[sportznut]

If A-Rod were still a shortstop, he would be a number 1 pick without question. But as a third baseman, I feel there are a lot of guys that can almost equal his fantasy output. So with the number 1 pick I would go with a position of little depth first, then take one of the mid-level third baseman later.

Ditto with Pujols. There's too many first baseman that can do the things he can do. Maybe not as good as Pujols, but still.

Vlad is certainly a quality number 1. He's like Beltran. He gets you good average (well, not Beltran last year, but historically), homers, RBI's, and steals. And both have good k/bb ratios. I don't think you can go wrong with either at number 1.
Well I'm in another league with Slobfather and I'll be drafting from scratch. It'll be interesting to see who gets the top picks and how they sort out.

Someone ALWAYS falls if you're ready to nab him.

I just hope my computer doesn't freeze on me like last year for football. I was fuming, and the computer drafted like 6 RBs in a row.

[John3714]

I just hope my computer doesn't freeze on me like last year for football. I was fuming, and the computer drafted like 6 RBs in a row.
Man, that sucks. That's why I hate pre-ranking my players. The computer just goes off that list, regardless of team needs. Sometimes you have to do what you have to though.

Look at the bright side of that. At least you probably had great trade bait! It could've been 6 kickers in a row.

[sportznut]

Man, that sucks. That's why I hate pre-ranking my players. The computer just goes off that list, regardless of team needs. Sometimes you have to do what you have to though.

Look at the bright side of that. At least you probably had great trade bait! It could've been 6 kickers in a row.
Actually I didn't prerank anyone. I had those guys queued up. Normally I queue up guys I don't want to forget about. I don't queue the stars. I queue the sleeper picks.

Anyway I still managed to get to the finals.

[Rip]

Pujols qualifies at 1st and 3rd right? I'd take him over A-Rod. Now that A-Rod is at 3rd I like Tejada as a top2-3 pick.

RJ getting traded to NY was the greatest thing ever for me in our keeper league. Now only if they trade Brandon webb. Can't complain about my top 2 keepers now though in RJ and Tejada.

[Boik14 is the shiz]

Maybe I'm biased because he's on my fantasy team, but I have to go with Beltran. Sure, his average dropped quite a bit, but he's still a real threat for 30-30 and a possible threat for 40-40. I expect his average to raise a little this year too.Even as a NYM fan I cant see Beltran doing 40-40. Houston and KC were better HR parks. His average will go back above 300 this year but his HRS i expect to fall back down to the 25-30 range. Shea is a disaster for power hitter and probably costs Piazza 8-10 hrs a year in past years due to the deep gaps in LC and RC. Im figuring 305-25-105-35-100RS since those are around his normal numbers. Certainly top 5 worthy but I wouldnt put him above AP, Arod, Manny or Vlad.

IMO #1 pick is Arod b/c Torre will let him become a SB threat again making him the only legit candidate for 40-40-300-100RBI-100RS. Pujols plantar fasciatis is still bothering him though not enough for me to drop him out of my top 3.

And how can no one have mentioned Manny so far? All he ever does is 315-40-130-100 and fielding doesnt count in fantasy :)

If its roto, Id also need to seriously consider Carl Crawford cause I wouldnt need to worry about SB again.

[sportznut]

Even as a NYM fan I cant see Beltran doing 40-40. Houston and KC were better HR parks. His average will go back above 300 this year but his HRS i expect to fall back down to the 25-30 range. Shea is a disaster for power hitter and probably costs Piazza 8-10 hrs a year in past years due to the deep gaps in LC and RC. Im figuring 305-25-105-35-100RS since those are around his normal numbers. Certainly top 5 worthy but I wouldnt put him above AP, Arod, Manny or Vlad.

IMO #1 pick is Arod b/c Torre will let him become a SB threat again making him the only legit candidate for 40-40-300-100RBI-100RS. Pujols plantar fasciatis is still bothering him though not enough for me to drop him out of my top 3.

And how can no one have mentioned Manny so far? All he ever does is 315-40-130-100 and fielding doesnt count in fantasy :)

If its roto, Id also need to seriously consider Carl Crawford cause I wouldnt need to worry about SB again.
Well I don't know about everyone else, but this thread isn't really about 1st round. That's why I didn't mention Manny. First rounder? Yes, most would draft him there. Number 1? Not unless you're a Sox homer does he have a chance, and Ortiz might go higher.

[Boik14 is the shiz]

Well I don't know about everyone else, but this thread isn't really about 1st round. That's why I didn't mention Manny. First rounder? Yes, most would draft him there. Number 1? Not unless you're a Sox homer does he have a chance, and Ortiz might go higher.Eh I dont know. If your looking for the safest possible pick it might be manny. It also depends if youre talking about a standard 5x5 roto or a h2h with 7x or 9x9 or something. To me Manny is about as safe a pick as you can get from year to year and im not saying 1st overall but somewhere in the top 5.

[sportznut]

Eh I dont know. If your looking for the safest possible pick it might be manny. It also depends if youre talking about a standard 5x5 roto or a h2h with 7x or 9x9 or something. To me Manny is about as safe a pick as you can get from year to year and im not saying 1st overall but somewhere in the top 5.
I hate those 5x5 leagues personally.

[Rip]

That's rotissarie right? I can't stand that for baseball. Not bad for NBA, but that's about it.

[sportznut]

That's rotissarie right? I can't stand that for baseball. Not bad for NBA, but that's about it.
Like you I'm a stats geek. 5 categories isn't enough, but I always try to balance the number of offense and pitching categories.

[Rip]

Speaking of categories. We didn't use Holds last year did we? I hate that damn stat.

[sportznut]

Speaking of categories. We didn't use Holds last year did we? I hate that damn stat.
I can assure holds will NEVER be a category in my league.

[Rip]

LOL...Thank you.

[Boik14 is the shiz]

I hate those 5x5 leagues personally.I prefer H2h too but i usually do 1 roto league a year just for fun because you see things from a different perspective. Its a different game and it can help you in H2H

[Boik14 is the shiz]

I can assure holds will NEVER be a category in my league.I used that in an 11 by 11 league. It was a pretty sweet league. We used some uncommon stuff like 3bs, OPS, Holds and slg%.

[John3714]

I used that in an 11 by 11 league. It was a pretty sweet league. We used some uncommon stuff like 3bs, OPS, Holds and slg%.
I don't think triples, OPS and slg% are strange to use in fantasy leagues, but holds, man, what a stupid stat. I'm not even sure what constitues a hold. Is it the last relief pitcher to pitch before the closer? Does the score have to be within a certain amount of runs? Stupid, stupid stat.

[Calm]

I don't think triples, OPS and slg% are strange to use in fantasy leagues, but holds, man, what a stupid stat. I'm not even sure what constitues a hold. Is it the last relief pitcher to pitch before the closer? Does the score have to be within a certain amount of runs? Stupid, stupid stat.
What's wrong with including Holds?

Earned when a relief pitcher enters a game in a save situation, records at least one out, and leaves the game without having given up the lead

In fantasy it gives middle relievers a hell of a lot more value.

[John3714]

What's wrong with including Holds?



In fantasy it gives middle relievers a hell of a lot more value.
True, I guess my main beef with using holds is you may not know who will go into that situation from game to game. You do with some teams. For example, we're pretty certain that this year Urbina will get many holds, but last year? I couldn't even begin to guess who was the Tiger's hold leader. You have to understand though, this is coming from a guy who isn't too fond of saves as a stat either. All that stat does, IMO, is glorify a good pitcher who doesn't have the stamina to pitch more than one inning effectively.

[Boik14 is the shiz]

What's wrong with including Holds?



In fantasy it gives middle relievers a hell of a lot more value.Thank you Clammy.

You in for fantasy baseball when we get a league together? Kev's in, and im pretty sure Dev, Shula, Smad, and the usual crew will be in.

[sportznut]

What's wrong with including Holds?



In fantasy it gives middle relievers a hell of a lot more value.
I've been in leagues with holds. I think it's just too much of a pain in the ass to figure out b/c most sites don't use holds as a stat.

I really don't give a crap about middle relievers. I'll take extra offense, starting pitching, and closers instead.

[Calm]

Thank you Clammy.

You in for fantasy baseball when we get a league together? Kev's in, and im pretty sure Dev, Shula, Smad, and the usual crew will be in.
You know me, I'm always in.

[Calm]

I've been in leagues with holds. I think it's just too much of a pain in the ass to figure out b/c most sites don't use holds as a stat.

I really don't give a crap about middle relievers. I'll take extra offense, starting pitching, and closers instead.
Well, if you need a pitcher, all the closers are gone and none of the starting pitchers will help you out, I have no problem grabbing a middle reliever like Akinori Otsuka last year. Someone who is overlooked because he won't see many save opportunities, but who has a low ERA, pitches a lot of games, strikes out a batter or more an inning, has a low WHIP.......

[sportznut]

Well, if you need a pitcher, all the closers are gone and none of the starting pitchers will help you out, I have no problem grabbing a middle reliever like Akinori Otsuka last year. Someone who is overlooked because he won't see many save opportunities, but who has a low ERA, pitches a lot of games, strikes out a batter or more an inning, has a low WHIP.......
That I definitely agree with. I had Lidge and K-Rod at times on my team BEFORE they were closing.

BTW, this thread has really wandered off my initial post, hasn't it?

[Boik14 is the shiz]

You know me, I'm always in.K, ill keep that in mind and ill let you know when the time comes either through PM or on Phins board.

[Boik14 is the shiz]

BTW, this thread has really wandered off my initial post, hasn't it? Yep, sorry about that. I have something to say about everything. :cool:

[John3714]

That I definitely agree with. I had Lidge and K-Rod at times on my team BEFORE they were closing.

BTW, this thread has really wandered off my initial post, hasn't it?
Unless we're talking about taking Lidge or K-Rod first overall, then yes, it has gone off topic.

And if any of you would take Lidge or K-Rod first overall, you can be in my league any day :D

[Boik14 is the shiz]

Unless we're talking about taking Lidge or K-Rod first overall, then yes, it has gone off topic.

And if any of you would take Lidge or K-Rod first overall, you can be in my league any day :DEspecially if theres money involved. i can always use a few extra bones :)

[JRoll]

How about Thome? When he's healthy, he can be a monster. The only flaw with him in fantasy is the K's.

[sportznut]

How about Thome? When he's healthy, he can be a monster. The only flaw with him in fantasy is the K's.
Thome is considered a second or third round guy in most leagues.

Abreu is rated much higher b/c of his all around game that most players in this league don't have anymore.

[sportznut]

Here is an article on Yahoo about the number 1 pick overall.

http://fantasysports.yahoo.com/analysis/news?slug=mh-mlb05_dilemma1&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&league=fantasy/mlb

[kwahraps]

How about Thome? When he's healthy, he can be a monster. The only flaw with him in fantasy is the K's.
Not a problem in the traditional leagues where K's are not an offensive category.
However, guys like Edmonds had better numbers than Thome. At 1B alone, there were 7 better picks according to the ESPN player rater (Pujols, Helton, Ortiz, Teixeira, Hafner, Casey, Konerko). While Thome is capable of big numbers, there are lots of quality 1B to get in the draft. Because of positional scarcity, I would much prefer to load up at C, SS, 3B, or 2B, then get one of those 8 in the 4th or 5th round, unless there is an ace pitcher staring right at me.