*sigh*

[turbo]

I can't believe how bad we have become.

[jeffh52]

Turbo, do you watch the games up there? We're not horrible. It's a play here, a play there that the Bucs made in the past that they're not now ......... Plus, a blind fucking replay official!

[PhilaVa]

Turbo, do you watch the games up there? We're not horrible. It's a play here, a play there that the Bucs made in the past that they're not now ......... Plus, a blind fucking replay official!No, I'm pretty sure Turbo hit the nail on the head. But unlike him I can believe it.

[turbo]

Turbo, do you watch the games up there? We're not horrible. It's a play here, a play there that the Bucs made in the past that they're not now ......... Plus, a blind fucking replay official!
I've seen about 1/3 of the games... We don't get a lot of BUC games televised...

It is maddening that we lose games in the fashion we lose games...

C'mon, our D gave up 2 TDs in the final 4 minutes??

We just aren't very good, maybe not horrible, but we are damn close. In the NFC, if we can't win 8 fuckin' games, then we don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyway...

very frustrating to say the least.

Oh well, at least we have our super bowl DVDs to drown the sorrow!

[jeffh52]

C'mon, our D gave up 2 TDs in the final 4 minutes??
One was after a punt return to around the 5 yd line and the other was after a HORRIBLE call on a "fumble" by Pittman. The D had them in a 4th and 10 and that loser Brooks scrambles for 10 and a half. The winning TD came on apass where Smith had good coverage, just one of those where he turns his head to look for pass a second too late ...

[turbo]

and a loss is still a loss...

face it, we suck!

winning 5 games in the lowly NFC is a crime, chuckie ought to be real proud of himself (and this is the first negative thing I have directed at Gruden...)

[jeffh52]

and a loss is still a loss...

face it, we suck!

winning 5 games in the lowly NFC is a crime, chuckie ought to be real proud of himself (and this is the first negative thing I have directed at Gruden...)In case you don't check out the papers down here ...

http://www.tampatrib.com/Sports/MGBIBANKZ2E.html

[turbo]

great, just what we need, locker room problems...

Gruden is gonna leave, watch and see...

[turbo]

Jeff,

Any talk yet by the local media about Gruden being on the chopping block??

[jeffh52]

Jeff,

Any talk yet by the local media about Gruden being on the chopping block??Not up to this point ........ Most are of the mindset, like me, that the Lombardi was here because of Gruden. I really haven't read the papers this week because of the agony but I seriously doubt he is in any kind of iminent danger except for maybe a redneck assassin. I'm still going with my 5 year grace period .....

Also, don't know if that article had it in it but Alstott stated in his radio show that he felt "disrespected" by the benching after the early fumble. Probably wouldn't be a big deal if Pittman hadn't coughed it up later in the game ...

[turbo]

I'm with you Jeff, I cast no ill will upon Gruden, without him, we would not be super bowl XXXVII world champions... I am forever in debt to the man and view him as GOD! lol

I am also willing to give him 5 years, hell, I'll give him 10!

Nothing compares to the Super Bowl Victory, and I can rest on that for a long damn time!

[Beelzebuc]

Okay, two things I garnered from that pillow-talk:

1. Yer both stupid.

2. El Heffe is the dumber of the two, but that's only a concession I make under much duress...cause it's just too close to call.

[jeffh52]

Okay, two things I garnered from that pillow-talk:

1. Yer both stupid.

2. El Heffe is the dumber of the two, but that's only a concession I make under much duress...cause it's just too close to call.Can't you get anything right, you stupid cunt?? Turbo is way dumber than I am ....

[turbo]

Can't you get anything right, you stupid cunt?? Turbo is way dumber than I am ....
but yet much smarter than you too....