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O'Donal31
03-20-2008, 09:25 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/20/SP0FVNFGS.DTL

4 million under right now and after restructures and trades/releases they will be even more under.....keep spending AL

sportznut
03-20-2008, 09:28 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/20/SP0FVNFGS.DTL

4 million under right now and after restructures and trades/releases they will be even more under.....keep spending ALHe can't spend too much more money.

Still have to sign the rookies, and they have the #4 pick.

I expect them to trade down, but until they do, they're going to need more than 4M to sign all their rookies.

O'Donal31
03-20-2008, 09:31 PM
He can't spend too much more money.

Still have to sign the rookies, and they have the #4 pick.

I expect them to trade down, but until they do, they're going to need more than 4M to sign all their rookies.

well I kinda meant keep spending on the number 4 pick but I agree I want to see them trade down but only if C Long or Mcfadden are gone.

sportznut
03-20-2008, 09:34 PM
well I kinda meant keep spending on the number 4 pick but I agree I want to see them trade down but only if C Long or Mcfadden are gone.I know this sounds crazy, but they don't need McFadden.

They need DT, DE, and OT more than anything.

They could potentially get the top player at all 3 positions at their pick.

That's an incentive to stay there, but those positions are also deep enough for them to move down a bit, grab one of those players (albeit not the top guy), and gain more picks.

However, if you're looking at an Ellis/Dorsey/Gholston/J.Long type of scenario, you'd have to think long and hard about keeping the pick.

O'Donal31
03-20-2008, 09:37 PM
I know this sounds crazy, but they don't need McFadden.

They need DT, DE, and OT more than anything.

They could potentially get the top player at all 3 positions at their pick.

That's an incentive to stay there, but those positions are also deep enough for them to move down a bit, grab one of those players (albeit not the top guy), and gain more picks.

However, if you're looking at an Ellis/Dorsey/Gholston/J.Long type of scenario, you'd have to think long and hard about keeping the pick.

see thats my thing, I know they dont need him and I really like fargas and I think bush will be good but if mcfadden can be anything like peterson then that be one hell of an offense the raiders could potentially have.

I really do want them to get help at DT or DE but I just think they spent the whole offseason doing defensive stuff that they are going to pick an offensive player....and If Al Davis falls in love with a player like he has rumored to with McFadden then nothing can change his mind on that.....so I really dont know but either way they go I think ill be happy with the pick(s) they make.

O'Donal31
03-20-2008, 09:39 PM
well they did get some offensive guys but they did a lot of defensive things that shored up the defense more so then the offense.

sportznut
03-20-2008, 09:42 PM
see thats my thing, I know they dont need him and I really like fargas and I think bush will be good but if mcfadden can be anything like peterson then that be one hell of an offense the raiders could potentially have.

I really do want them to get help at DT or DE but I just think they spent the whole offseason doing defensive stuff that they are going to pick an offensive player....and If Al Davis falls in love with a player like he has rumored to with McFadden then nothing can change his mind on that.....so I really dont know but either way they go I think ill be happy with the pick(s) they make.You're probably right about the defensive side of the ball, but guys like Gholston are special talents.

If Jake Long fell to them, I wonder if they'd feel burned by the Gallery pick, and pass on him too.

If McFadden fell to their pick it could be tremendous no matter if they traded down or took him.

I'd assume some teams would make a nice offer to get to that pick if he was there.

O'Donal31
03-20-2008, 09:45 PM
You're probably right about the defensive side of the ball, but guys like Gholston are special talents.

If Jake Long fell to them, I wonder if they'd feel burned by the Gallery pick, and pass on him too.

If McFadden fell to their pick it could be tremendous no matter if they traded down or took him.

I'd assume some teams would make a nice offer to get to that pick if he was there.

I think with Jake Long they would see gallery and pass

I would love Gholston he is a beast.....but I would also love Chris Long because he is good and the whole legacy thing.....Mcfadden if hes there I know we would get some great offers from teams like dallas 2 first rounders maybe a second and a 3rd that would help the raiders big time

sportznut
03-20-2008, 09:49 PM
I think with Jake Long they would see gallery and pass

I would love Gholston he is a beast.....but I would also love Chris Long because he is good and the whole legacy thing.....Mcfadden if hes there I know we would get some great offers from teams like dallas 2 first rounders maybe a second and a 3rd that would help the raiders big timeYeah, I pretty much agree.

I LOVE Gholston though.

I'd take him over Chris or any other pass rusher in this draft.

However, that's not to say if they move down they still couldn't get a solid pass rusher either.

Personally I'd like to see what Michael Bush can do before they're looking to replace him.

Give the kid a chance to shine and stay healthy.

O'Donal31
03-20-2008, 09:55 PM
Yeah, I pretty much agree.

I LOVE Gholston though.

I'd take him over Chris or any other pass rusher in this draft.

However, that's not to say if they move down they still couldn't get a solid pass rusher either.

Personally I'd like to see what Michael Bush can do before they're looking to replace him.

Give the kid a chance to shine and stay healthy.

exactly thats why it makes it hard, because I think everyone wants to see what Bush can do but a player like Mcfadden might not fall into the raiders laps again.